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Can someone further explain to me why Evelynn is getting a full scale rework?

Vhan8765··1 votes·1,894 views

I want to start this off by stating I do understand why Eve is getting some changes; she is definitely somewhat outdated and sending some love her way would probably do the girl some serious good. But where things start making less sense to me is that Riot intends on giving her a full scale rework, do they not? One on the size of Poppy or Galio, yeah? This is where, at the absolute very least, I question "Why Evelynn over other champions?" Aatroxx certainly could stand to accept a rework a lot faster then Evelynn. But besides that even, I don't understand why Eve is getting a full scale rework in the first place in comparison to something the size of the Katarina rework whereas to make her more complex and have depth to her gameplay? So can the members of the community who follow along with all that stuff a lot more then I do further explain Riot's thought process to me?

While her play rate isn't the best, of the people who do play Eve, they play her damn well. Even for a casual Eve player, she feels nice enough and her kit makes some sense for her character type. As is, Evelynn is still a great assassin who can sp00ke the shit out of someone, burst them to bits in no time, and then gtfo before anyone has any time to react. Other then her ult and simplicity in gameplay, I honestly cannot find a reason for a full scale Evelynn rework.

Thank you in advance to those who took the time to read and reply to this post; I appreciate your explanations, hopefully they help me feel at ease a bit more about Riot changing my Eve. :'/

12 Comments

Dominick Destine4 votes

The answer to that is probably Ravage and to a lesser extent, Dark Frenzy.

They're very dull , uninspired spells. At least Hate Spike has a level of skill attached to it, especially after the missile speed was gutted a couple of years ago. I have been an Evelynn main for 7 years but even I can't deny that her kit is pretty damn outdated.

That being said, she requires a lot more skill than faceroll overpowered champs like Lee or Yasuo. Her high risk gameplay with absurdly high mana costs should be conserved, it is the best part of playing her.

Batpool Uchiha1 votes

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Dominick Destine1 votes

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Well that's lovely.

It is a fact that they are faceroll, brokenly OP champs.

Multiple extremely low CD , easy-to-use escape mechanisms. Manaless. Highest in-class stats for each of them. In Yasuo's case , hyper scaler. In Lee Sin's case, scales harder than over 90% of the cast, with only hyper scalers cleanly outscaling him.

These two champ are brain-dead easy to play and brokenly overpowered.

Batpool Uchiha1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uPMmBdgq,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2017-09-22T20:27:00.067+0000)

Well that's lovely.

It is a fact that they are faceroll, brokenly OP champs.

Multiple extremely low CD , easy-to-use escape mechanisms. Manaless. Highest in-class stats for each of them. In Yasuo's case , hyper scaler. In Lee Sin's case, scales harder than over 90% of the cast, with only hyper scalers cleanly outscaling him.

These two champ are brain-dead easy to play and brokenly overpowered.

yea and thats why theyare only viable in bronze or silvereven gold a bit. because people dont know how to gap close they let the game drag on and go into late game.and yes theyare manless but they are hard as fuck. with yasuo if you get behind you do no damage and just get insta bursted. top lane yasuo is hard and mid lane is too. literally anybodycan play malzahar and do well against a yasuo. you just really suck because he takes a lot of skill to do well with otherwise you just feed. and if lee gets behind in the jungle there goes his pressure on the lanes and he can only afk farm.

Linna Excel1 votes

My worry is the kind of skill you used to need to play her is going away and she's going to play completely differently now.

Nekusen3 votes

I agree, as an Eve player i can get how her kit could seem a bit outdated (especially her ult), but she has a lot of tactical play going on, unlike champions that are way more bland like Master Yi.

Linna Excel1 votes

Yeah, I'm pretty sure her old tactical play is going to be dead when she hits the PBE tomorrow. She'll probably get something new that's different than before.

Glîtchy2 votes

Well notice how she's rarely ever been touched for buffs/nerfs?

that's because in her current state, it's difficult to balance her properly, sure Renekton can't be buffed or nerfed properly either, but he's actually just fine like this, but you see, Evelynn becomes too underpowered if nerfed, and is too overpowered if left alone or buffed, which is why they're reworking her.

m1racles1 votes

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Well notice how she's rarely ever been touched for buffs/nerfs?

No, I really don't. She has been through a lot of changes.

Mirage Night1 votes

It boils down to cohesive theme.

This means story, visuals, and gameplay all create a single clear character. In Evelynn's case, she has such a broad scope from a background perceptive, there is no defining trait outside she being an assassin. In the case of her visuals, she is a blue demon dominatrix. Nothing really tying her back to being an assassin as per her background. and gamplay is pretty far off the mark when attempting to pull that aspect together into 1 package.

So they are going to take the few defining traits she has and really try to deliver on them in 1 whole character.

Linna Excel1 votes
  1. She needed a VGU
  2. Most people would argue her lore was lacking
  3. Might as well totally remake her kit while you are at it
Laughing Fish1 votes

I am locking this thread, as it is over 6 months old and the conversation died. If anyone has anything to add, please make a new post rather then bringing back long dead threads.

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