Yay Tank Fizz is back.
Seriously how does this problem keep happening?
Seriously how does this problem keep happening?
I would imagine it's something like this:
Riotguy1: Fizz is killing everything in sight while being unkillable. Quick! Nerf his base damage! Riotguy2: On it sir.
Some time later
Riotguy1: Tank Fizz is killing everything in sight while being twice as hard to kill. Quick! Give him some fat ap ratios.
Riotguy2: Yes sir.
Even more time later
Riotguy1: Everyone is complaining that we gutted the fish. Quick! Throw him a bone some chum.
Riotguy2: Right away sir.
Some time passes by
Riotguy1: Fizz is killing everything in sight while being unkillable. Quick! Nerf his base damage! Riotguy2: I quit sir.
lol just got into a game vs an top fizz with grasp tp and ignite
This and tank shaco need to be removed from the game. They get too much from artificial scaling items like

Shaco has another set of problems in general. He keeps on getting nerfed because of his damage when all 3 of his core builds use artificial damage.
(idk what tank shaco builds)
Because they thought that he needed base damages compensations when they fixed his bullshit ult hitbox...
But he didn't. And now we're all doomed to play vs bruiser Fizz once again.
The same way Yasuo became good again.
i just played against him top lane... i was maokai... i went 3-1-6 won lane. out cs him 136 to 105 he went 1/3/0 i did 8795 damage to champs he did 7101
it was a fairly easy lane for me... however i seen way better fizz player, his jungle, and bot fed hard. and i main maokai top sooo
Well first the disclaimer. He's not really filling the role of a Tank (Vanguard or Warden) when building that. He simply doesn't have the same level of crowd control. (Though Fighter build has the same ring to it)
But the problem with Fizz/Ekko/etc, is that they synergize with Lich bane. That in of itself isn't a problem, Lich bane was made for their kind. But because the synergize with Lich bane, they also synergize with the other sheen items, including TF.
And TF is simply a really good Bruiser/Diver item with a lot of up front damage. Granting most of the base damage needed for a diver. (usually it's supplemented by BotRK, Ghost Blade, Sterak's) And then build tank.
But why does Riot allow this to happen? Don't no, perhaps they don't see their bruiser builds as inherently oppressive, and allow people to build their champions however they like.