This Red+Krug shit has to be fixed, RIto

I had an enemy top Riven absolutely cry about "Bully Sej" when I went top lane right after my red side red + krugs as she hit level 2 and went for the all in cheese... She died, my laner got first blood and that lane was basically over when I came back about six minutes later and my laner baited her into my ult. (Bonus was she had just popped own ult activation as the bola hit. Mmm, gotta love when important CDs get blown to no effect.)

So it isn't just bot lane that can end up suffering. Certain top lanes it pays to gank early also get blown up or get to burn flash early. Hard to get your cheesy early pressure on things like Riven or Pantheon if the enemy jungle comes flying in before the third minute and takes at least half your health bar.

even though you already know its coming and when...you refuse to adapt your laning phase to compensate for the guaranteed early pressure?

They usually take a week off shortly after dropping the preseason patch into live.

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Their jungle camp spawn at 1:35. Lane starts at 2:00. They will always be level 3 when you're level 2. All they have to do is take part of their 3rd camp to reach level 3, or scuttle crab that spawn at 2:30 to reach level 3. At best, it will only be a 10 second difference. They will always hit lv 3 before 3:00.

That's why the exp needs to be redistributed. Chickens need to have less ad and give more exp, krugs need to have less exp.

agreed, most people think level 3 ganks are op

but if you put a ward up, and your jungler is smart, then the enemy jungler will fail his level 3 gank as your jungler clears the other half of enemy jungle and comes out with a 1-2 level advantage.

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Imagine if you placed 1 ward in the tri bush at like 2:30...no gank :o The power of wards

Oh so all they'd do in that case is force you out of lane and put you way behind instead of killing you. The power of wards indeed.

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Imagine if you placed 1 ward in the tri bush at like 2:30...no gank :o The power of wards

Evelynn junglers will walk into lane avoiding the bush. And this level 3 gank works on all lanes so what does a midlaner do there are 6 spots they can be ganked from. Even with a control ward it wont help I tested it out by hugging the wall opposite of the control ward at bot lane and went past it without being seen and helped get a kill and summoners.

The best part is that - since only the Blue team jungler can do it to botlane* / only the Red team jungler can do it to toplane* - it is even more predictable.

Blue team toplaner needs to not push the first 2-3 waves Red team botlane needs to not push the first 2-3 waves.

EZPZ.

*without walking ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE FCKING MAP

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If it's any consolation at least you already know it's coming lol. It's so predictable at this point

Any lane can be ganked with this method and it is not like it happens every match from what I have seen so it is a bit harder to tell when it might happen.

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I just had a game totally destroyed by it - I had no idea about it until my team mates explained how we were ganked by a level 3 Lee at the start of the game. Being behind that early just snowballed until both me and the ADC were several levels lower and couldn't do crap.

Now I looked into it, and I can't understand why it hasn't been fixed yet...!

They did it on purpose... some people dont like to read

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the problem is that if they adjust the jungle to punish them the junglers that already struggle a bit like fizz will be in even more trouble. Lowering the exp would just be bad for most champions in the jungle.

Fizz is not a jungler.

It's because you have red instead of blue, and are closer to bot lane after krugs than wolves. The gank power is broken