"ADC focuses the tank GG"

9kPluzZ··11 votes·3,604 views

Why the hell do people act like adc is such a easy role to carry with when its one of the hardest right now?

Team fight starts and sion ultis. Vi and sion go for me. I have to back off away from sion/vi while tank is running around like a idiot. I have no choose but to seperate from my team.

Heres the order (Enemy ADC/mage<their tanks<my tanks dieing and not peeling> And Me the adc). Only one in range for me to auto without dieing is sion/Vi (playing cait by the way). And after the fight i hear "ADC focuses the tank GG" Well im sry next time i will just Tank everyone to get a few autos on their carry.

31 Comments

TehNACHO8 votes

It's actually kinda funny because it's oftentimes the ADC's job to kill the tanks.

Doctrorpheus6 votes

The ADC focuses the CLOSEST ENEMY.

If 2 ADCS are fighting each other in a team fight you're doing it wrong.

LankPants1 votes

Unless it's Urgot Vs Graves, then it's just about acceptable.

Partholonian4 votes

Killing the enemy squishies is an APC's job, not an ADC's. An ADC is supposed to do consistent, non resource/CD constrained damage from a position of safety, and secure objectives.

Now, if Zed focuses the tank, or worse, ults the tank, then he absolutely should be bitched at. Cait on the other hand, often has no better option; she doesn't really have the kit to survive a dive (or even start one). Although you probably shouldn't deliberately ult the tank either, but it's not (usually) your fault if they body block it.

Swollwonder2 votes

Adc is supposed to kill tanks Which is why I rage when I see no bork or lw but gosh be darned if they dont have blood thirster and statik first!

King of Demons1 votes

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Adc is supposed to kill tanks Which is why I rage when I see no bork or lw but gosh be darned if they dont have blood thirster and statik first!

Botrk is actually a duelist item. ADCs should get IE ZEAL ITEM BT/LW and then go for whatever they want, mostly getting what they didn't get third, finish boots if they didn't already and maybe a Mercurial Scimitar or Banshee's.

Swollwonder3 votes

I refuse to believe that in the age of tanks Bork is now considered only a dueling item. With cinderhulk on the loose there better be a bork

King of Demons2 votes

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I refuse to believe that in the age of tanks Bork is now considered only a dueling item. With cinderhulk on the loose there better be a bork

It's true though. Most ADCs benefit more from AD and Armor Pen than from the %currentHP. ADCs can't really make use of the rather low ranged Active of the item. Botrk doesn't help you kill tanks, it helps you getting them low. It starts off better but the DPS go down the lower their HP get and don't forget that they love stacking Armor, in which case you will lack AD in combination with your LW to damage them properly. If the enemy has a million HP but no armor? Go for Botrk. If not? Don't do it.

Swollwonder1 votes

"Disregarding the active ability and attack speed, to exceed damage gained by The Bloodthirster on a target, the target must have at least (80-25)/(0.08) = 687.5 health. To deal more average damage to a target than a The Bloodthirster item.png The Bloodthirster from full to no health, the target must have at least 1375 health."

So basically bork does MORE damage to any champ past level 7ish than bt. plus its magic damage so armor doesnt negate it. add in LW and its a tank killer. IMO its better BECAUSE it gets tanks low not because it kills them.

King of Demons1 votes

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"Disregarding the active ability and attack speed, to exceed damage gained by The Bloodthirster on a target, the target must have at least (80-25)/(0.08) = 687.5 health. To deal more average damage to a target than a The Bloodthirster item.png The Bloodthirster from full to no health, the target must have at least 1375 health."

So basically bork does MORE damage to any champ past level 7ish than bt. plus its magic damage so armor doesnt negate it. add in LW and its a tank killer. IMO its better BECAUSE it gets tanks low not because it kills them.

Botrk DOES NOT deal magic damage.

Swollwonder1 votes

Well then again you just get the last whisper. Still doing more damage than Blood thirster if damage is what you're truly after

CubedJustice1 votes

What if you're Corki? <3

Crushed lil kid1 votes

What if I'm vayne

Erockandroll2 votes

It's a matter of team comp. Some tanks are better at engaging, others better at peeling, and protecting. If we looked at support tanks, it would be the difference between a Leona, and a Braum. Another example is that Maokai can target his Twisted advance targeting an important target, while Sion's Q and Ult affect the first person hit and who ever's in range.

Also depends on whether you have a good pick mage/assassin. Because Zed, Leblanc, Ahri will do a better job killing the ADC than the Tank.

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NO, you can not, because their tanks will just go for you and focus you down

Because the ADC is likely the only person on the team who can reasonably get LW and BotRK means that they are the only ones who can kill the tank. But the trick is to focus it, and when. If you engage, you don't want to target the tank. But if you get engaged on, (an the rest of the enemy team isn't less than a few paces away), then the enemy tank will die to the focus fire, before the rest of his team can initiate.

Summeries my points, If you can jump the enemy carries, fine but make sure you can actually kill them. Otherwise your best off clubbing the closes guy you can reach.

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You HAVE to focus the tank if they are in your face. You cannot ignore them when they are so close to you. People will search for reasons to flame you though, which is often "OMG YOUR FOCUS SUCKS" because it's really easy to blame.

welcome to YoloQ, Where no one adapts to changing conditions, and blames it on the Jungler/support for things not going their way. I had one game where the entire team was complaining about the enemy being too tanky. So me playing the ADC adapted, getting BotRK, and LW. But the rest of the team could not adapt (i.e. they didn't protect the tank shreder.) They rather dive the back line, then wonder why I couldn't escape flanks, or kite the enemy tank who did the flanking.

ModWulf Helhammer2 votes

In which case you should direct them to this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQzB0HDstLY

FTMHukY4Ps1 votes

That's a case of the team's tanks not doing their job and peeling so you can get in range to safely hit the enemy carry.

9kPluzZ1 votes

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That's a case of the team's tanks not doing their job and peeling so you can get in range to safely hit the enemy carry.

exactly in a even or losing game if the tanks dont do their job. The adc cant do sh1t. At least with assasins yuo can. but adcs nope

MićaĆomlaDJ1 votes

NO, you can not, because their tanks will just go for you and focus you down

Swollwonder1 votes

This is how NOT to play Lol

LankPants1 votes

safely hit the enemy carry.

Your range, 500 to 600

Their ADCs range, 500 to 600

How can you safely hit them? if you're in range to hit them they can hit you back.

GundayMonday1 votes

Yeah, people still learning how to peel in the tank meta. Feel your pain sir.

King of Demons1 votes

You HAVE to focus the tank if they are in your face. You cannot ignore them when they are so close to you. People will search for reasons to flame you though, which is often "OMG YOUR FOCUS SUCKS" because it's really easy to blame.

Burnt Light1 votes

People these days don't know what the hell peel is.

Crushed lil kid1 votes

Listen man I understand how life must be difficult as an adc in bronze 3 but I think you are being very biased in that the way you worded it makes it seem as if you are doublelift reborn but to be honest some of the absolute worst players I have seen are adc and my opinion is also most likely biased as a jungle main but when you can't right click things and click backwards then click them again in order to orbwalk and kite you can't call your tanks bad because they die defending you as you run away from a full tank sion instead of say kiting and auto attacking. In my opinion although it is biased I believe jungling is the hardest role to carry in because since season 5 every camp took about a quadruple dose of steroids and hit harder than a freight train being used as a baseball bat by a giant robot not to mention I have to have all objective control and control pressure across the map and ensure I clean up everyone's mistakes in lane. But god forbid you have to auto attack the tank for a little bit as I sit in the front lines and absorb more damage than spongebob absorbs water. So I'm sorry if you think your job of sitting behind your team and right clicking things is hard.

9kPluzZ1 votes

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Listen man I understand how life must be difficult as an adc in bronze 3 but I think you are being very biased in that the way you worded it makes it seem as if you are doublelift reborn but to be honest some of the absolute worst players I have seen are adc and my opinion is also most likely biased as a jungle main but when you can't right click things and click backwards then click them again in order to orbwalk and kite you can't call your tanks bad because they die defending you as you run away from a full tank sion instead of say kiting and auto attacking. In my opinion although it is biased I believe jungling is the hardest role to carry in because since season 5 every camp took about a quadruple dose of steroids and hit harder than a freight train being used as a baseball bat by a giant robot not to mention I have to have all objective control and control pressure across the map and ensure I clean up everyone's mistakes in lane. But god forbid you have to auto attack the tank for a little bit as I sit in the front lines and absorb more damage than spongebob absorbs water. So I'm sorry if you think your job of sitting behind your team and right clicking things is hard.

I can orb walk though. The prob is unless your kaista it want do shit about a cinder hulk tank on your azz

Crushed lil kid1 votes

if your problem is their hp buy a botrk if your problem is their armor buy last whisper. if your problem is a full tank is attacking you and unless you are hard cc'd and or cant farm for shit to afford items you should be able to beat tanks in a 1v1 mid game before they have their thornmail just kiting and lifestealing

Shogunai1 votes

I know that must suck, as an ADC you should lock yourself into a reliable support main to duo with because you will have at least 1 ally that can comprehends your role an their own an overall make it easier on you and the team. That's just a suggestion; maybe spend some time in Team builder or regular games an scout that way.

ABlueQuaker1 votes

The AD Carry's job is to attack the closest Enemy Champion. If there's multiple Enemy Champions at a similar range, THEN target priority comes into play.

djjomon1 votes

I wouldn't actually say this in-game, but "obviously you've never played ADC before." But people like you describe, OP, are just looking for someone to blame for their own mistakes

BeerOfRoot48431 votes

Rammus taunts you

wtf idiot stop focusing the tank

I Never Feed1 votes

Well if people used logic they might understand that as an adc you cannot simply kill their back-line. Also if it means you aren't doing damage for a little bit because you are getting better positioning it is up to your team to do what they need to do and ensure the victory in a fight.

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