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ranged in current jungle is BROKEN

THEcone·12/16/2014, 6:39:08 AM·1 votes·1,041 views

Recently played a jg game as KENNEN, yeah not very many people remember kennen but i tried it after seeing the UOL tf performance. Literally took NO damage from jungle camps, i got to a specific spot and the red buff main monster would just go to his attack animation then cancel and go back towards camp then aggro to me again, i did this with ALL camps and didnt even need to go BACK even grump frog or blue has these spots where they will aggro and not heal but wont deal damage as they go outside their camps range. Now the real problem begins, you think PANTHEON or FIORA soloing dragon was cool? LOL cant believe this game has a championship played for money and people make this broken system their career, but anyways AS KENNEN i would go towards enemy blue jg and aggro dragon, the dragon would attempt to attack me but just like all other jungle camps it went outside of its camps range and i got a easy and free dragon without taking a single hit.

So id like to ask Riot is this an intended part of your game? If so ranged junglers beat any other jungler by far, you could literally build the most OP melee champ with the most broken junglers kit and a ranged champion will out jungle them.

7 Comments

ofart12/16/2014, 6:41:58 AM2 votes

Yeah, this is not new information. It was always the case since S1. The problem is most ranged champs lack tackiness, heavy cc, usefulness without high gold income, good ganks, good base stats, escapes (key when deep warding like a Sightstone Lee or Jarvan), initiation abilities, etc.

Gnar actually has a lot of these though so that might be pretty decent.

Kowe The Ewok12/16/2014, 9:10:44 AM2 votes

Take Xin, rengar or a similiar jungler. Place a ward in the enemy jungle Enjoy a freekill.

THEcone12/16/2014, 6:47:07 AM1 votes

you got apoint but if you look at kennen he has a passive that stuns, and with the right leveling i did 2 stuns almost instantly, back to back stuns. his E gives a huge boost to movement speed and R will decimate gaurntee a stun which in most cases kennen can dash out 3 stuns no problem with ult up. rather he does alot of damage or tanky or not, that lane he is ganking is getting the kill and that along with the ranged problem is broken in my opinion. Baron is the only camp that isnt broken as it cant be aggro and has huge attack range so that kinda tells me riot knows this but doesnt care

ofart12/16/2014, 8:30:02 AM1 votes

Maybe he's better than most. His JG is sititng at 50% winrate on elobuff.com but only 3% of people do that. If he really is viable, I'd expect him to make a mark in competitive. They've already tried everything from TF jungle to Karthus JG so it's not as if they're afraid of breaking the meta.

ofart12/16/2014, 11:22:51 AM1 votes

How would you build him? I was thinking AS with Devourer but I feel like I'm wasting his AP ratios.

ofart12/17/2014, 3:34:16 AM1 votes

I tried it in a lot of games (using Devourer) in high Gold and it's pretty weak. The jungle clear is just terrible even with full AS. You don't lose health but you're unbearably slow. Secondly, he has very low burst without items so ganks were mediocre even when I got the stun off. He's only a real presence when he has Zhonya's.