"Our big goal this time around is to bring strategic diversity back to jungle..."

Griefer·Feb 11, 2015·5 votes·767 views

It's not when there's only like, 5 viable junglers.

Every other junglers are underpowered and performs sub-par in the new jungle.

12 Comments

McGonigle20Feb 11, 20151 votes

genius! this will fix everything!

.. can you at least put 5 minutes thought into something like this before you post.

GrieferFeb 11, 20152 votes

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genius! this will fix everything!

.. can you at least put 5 minutes thought into something like this before you post.

So hypothetically, if we were to nerf all viable junglers right now ( LeeSin JarvanIV etc...) and leave the jungle the way it is, no one would be viable.

If we were to make the jungle easier for squishier junglers, the viable ones would be overpowered.

Where are you coming from?

McGonigle20Feb 11, 20151 votes

buff the weaker jungle? that are already strong enough in lane?

GrieferFeb 11, 20151 votes

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buff the weaker jungle? that are already strong enough in lane?

Yes, let's put Evelynn in lane.

McGonigle20Feb 11, 20151 votes

so this topic applies to evelynn and only evelynn?

GrieferFeb 11, 20151 votes

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so this topic applies to evelynn and only evelynn?

So you're completely ignoring the fact that while junglers can lane, they do have counters? Just because a jungler receives small buffs so that they can jungle efficiently, does not mean they are going to be OP in lane.

TehNACHOFeb 11, 20151 votes

"But but but, even playing whack a mole with buffs and nerfs never worked before, I'm sure they'll work this time because I said they will"

Seriously though, it's kinda disappointing when people start saying "we should nerf the strong and buff the weak", I mean this is literally why Jarvan is a problem now but wasn't much so back in mid season 4.

GrieferFeb 11, 20152 votes

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"But but but, even playing whack a mole with buffs and nerfs never worked before, I'm sure they'll work this time because I said they will"

Seriously though, it's kinda disappointing when people start saying "we should nerf the strong and buff the weak", I mean this is literally why Jarvan is a problem now but wasn't much so back in mid season 4.

In Season 5, Jarvan's numbers and kit are exactly the same, and yet hes dominating simply because everything else was nerfed around him.

TehNACHOFeb 11, 20151 votes

That's the point.

If you try too hard playing whack a mole by hitting the strong and trying to invite the weak to come up, all you do is change the names and faces of who's at the top. You didn't do anything to solve the problem, we just went from Evelynn/Elise/Lee Sin to Jarvan/Vi/Lee Sin.

Lights And MagicFeb 11, 20151 votes

how are you going to buff the underpowered junglers without making them mega op in lane. I want Karthus jungle to be a thing again, but after s5 jungle, I just have to accept that it's not a thing anymore. If you buff Karthus, he'll be mega OP in lane.