BOTRK nerfs reverted, because you know, how dare Lucian possibly be nerfed in any form despite WR/PR

Joxcab·May 20, 2017·5 votes·331 views

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doodlebob666May 20, 20175 votes

in that same pbe update they lowered the lifesteal on blade, ie nerfing it in a different way that hurts it early game even more, while also nerfing the mana cost of his q, the ability he maxes first, by 10-30 mana, making him rely on it far more

JoxcabMay 20, 20172 votes

Lucian's Q isn't the reason he's a problem lmao.

And the lifesteal wasn't the problem on BOTRK. [zombie-brand-facepalm]

doodlebob666May 20, 20173 votes

the reason lucian with bork works so well is that its a perfect item for skirmishing early against other adc's and provides him the ability to fight tanks at the same time, lowering the lifesteal makes him less sustained in lane weakening him at one of his strongest points

also lucians q is very important to his kit, its his only basic ability that does damage, helps him proc his passive, and the cancel it has with his e is one of his strongest combo's, increasing its mana cost to 100 at rank 5 is a hefty nerf,especially considering the fact that limiting his q use means he can't use the double shot passive as much, meaning he can't proc bork as often

JoxcabMay 20, 20173 votes

I don't think you get it.

BOTRK's % health damage is why it was broken on ADCs when it wasn't meant for them.

Lucian's passive is why he's broken because it applies all on-hits and stacks, not because of his fucking Q by itself lol

doodlebob666May 20, 20173 votes

bork's %health damage is what makes it a good item on tanks and what makes them weak everytimes its built, but the reasons its so strong on adc's is because they can rush it and get the equivalent of a compressed 3 item spike, with lifesteal attack speed, and ad as a first item thats cheaper than ie and all of the other lifesteal items the on hit was just a bonus for the midgame-late game. Nerfing the lifesteal means that adc's dont need to rush it to survive lanephase against bullies like lucian, who will get it first, and spike immediately

Also lucian's entire kit is based on spell weaving he can't use his passive if he hasn't used a spell and nerfing the one with the lowest cooldown that is maxed first, is going to lower his dps in a long fight, and lower his mobility since the cooldown of his e goes down based on the number of times he's auto attacked

Eternal TormentMay 20, 20171 votes

his E goes down on passive procs, so only the 2nd AA from it.

but from what i saw that is the point of it all, lucian's passive synergy with bork aswell as the combination of ideal stats and spellcasting for him are what made him so strong. nerfing at least one ability had to be a must, and since his E and W are both just utility spells, it had to be Q or R. and that they chose Q makes me fairly satisfied to be all honest.