Kayn and Heimerdinguer are disgusting to deal against...

Heimerdinguer is horrible, why this champ is allowed to make big dmg even when he misses all of his skillshoots ? Just with his turrets, you lose a lot of HP. You can try to kill his horrible turrets but he will spam them and the guy has no mana cost, thank to . I was laning vs an Heimer with a ranged top laner. I dogded his W and E many times but the guy keep spamming his spells. Not only he is hard to approach but he can spam his W and E who makes 30 tons of dmg.

His gameplay is toxic, i don't even know why this champ exist. I mean even Teemo is healthier. At least you can approach him. He has mana cost and he don't spam W and E every 2s. I think you should consider nerfing Heimer W and E dmg or Up his mana cost. So he can't spam turrets like he wants, he can't spam spells like he wants, he has to think about placement and everything and you will make him more skill.

Actually, the guy only press Q and farm casually, you can try to kill the turrets but he will E you or poke you with his W. When you manage to kill turrets, you will have lose half of your HP bar and he will replaces turrets because he has no CD. + your jungler don't even want to gank him because the champ is very dangerous to approach. + jungle is nerfed so hard so the jungler won't take risk to gank a stupid Heimerdinguer. So you are left alone on your lane, pushed, you can't approach him and he pokes you with his base spells, so you need to play "dogde and farm" for 30 minutes. What a great gameplay, a pure interactive gameplay...

And Kayn, i never liked this stupid champion. Yes he is stupid for me because his dmg is stupid. The guy come out of the wall, press W and Q and i'm dead. In assassin form, i don't understand why he is allowed to have more dmg than all assassins with only 2 spells with shorts CD.

Zed needs to place his whole combo, Qiyana too, Akali too even if i don't like her...

But no, this guy just come out of a wall, press W and Q while running at 1000 movespeed and kill me in less than 1s. I don't even have time to react or something. I can't even escape, slowing him is useless...

I don't understand, you think it's fun to play vs this ? Passing trought walls is very powerful, i don't understand why he need to deal 2x more dmg than any assassin. He also have a untargetable ultimate. Why his dmg need to be so high that you can't even counterplay ? He come out of nowhere, press W and Q and opps, dead... And he can do it again 4s later.

His Darkin form was a pain and thx you did something to it but it's still fustrating to play vs this. Anyways i prefer play vs Darkin Kayn than the stupid assassin one.

No honestly, i don't undestand why Assassin kayn isn't nerfed. It's not healthy to see a guy coming trought walls, pressing 2 spells and killing you before you can even react. I mean even Leblanc is healthier, even Talon is healthier than this. I know Talon just press E then he trows his combo but Talon falls hard in lategame and you still have a little time when he jumps.

This guy come out from the wall at 1000 movespeed, it's faster than Kennen under steroids and he press 2 spells to kill someone. Talon press R, W and Q, he uses all of his spells to kill someone. This guy only use his Q and his W with his passive and he kills someone maybe even 2 or 3 guys.

I think there is a dmg problem with him. Ok he is an assassin but he isn't healthy at all. Except from hardcounterjungling him in early and that is the jungler job, i don't know what to do.