Is having fun possible now in League of Legends ? I'm not sure...

StormBladeMaster··50 votes·14,929 views

Hello, i'm just sharing some toughts on LOL :

The game has turned into a "no mistake" game mixed with RNG and a very bad matchmaking, very bad runes...

If you do a single mistake in lane, you lose. Even when you don't do mistake, your team will do mistakes for you so you will lose even if you don't want. You get bursted very easily, with no counterplay... Jungling is a nightmare, top lane is a nightmare, mid is annoying and bot lane is a nightmare because of Pyke Yuumi and mages supp like Lux Brand because dmg is better than everything.

Casual gameplay with fun should have been the keys to keep in this game but no, let's turn the game into a PRO players based game because only challengers and grandmaster play the game, the rest are just cash cows who are here to buy skins and chromas.

Why you would give your best to win games ? The matchmaking is doing your job ! If you lose a lot, you will win because we will put diamond players in your team and monkeys in the enemy team.

If you win a lot of games, don't try to win, it's useless. The matchmaking will put your team against stronger enemies to make you lose !

Games are decided before 10 maybe 5 min. You can almost be sure ! If you see your team feeding in early, it's lose, ff at 15 and next.

Everything is so stressful, so aggresive. We don't want to play like Korean players, we would like to enjoy games but it's not possible because they are so fast, lame...

When you play, you need to drink 3 tons of coffee and spam your buttons as fast as possible. You must act like r%%%%%s on the keyboards to play this game. Where is the fun ? You are stressed constantly because one mistake and the game is lose.

For example, you play jungle : If you are in bad matchup, it's very hard... If you get counter jungled it's harder and if you don't get objectives you are basically send to the trash.

We need more chilling, more relaxing. Why putting so much pressure ? I'm not saying you shouldn't get advantage if you play good but do you really need to win the game at champ select ?

You only care about beautiful plays. Where is the fun ? It's beautiful to see a Irelia 1 vs 5, dashing in all senses so fast... But i think it's more beautiful to see people enjoying their game and chill.

All you do is for pro play ! You want the scene, the cash, the fame !

You can make a million of beautiful skins but you can't make a good balance... But tell me how you balance things if this matchmaking put good players with bad to make them lose ? How you balance champs on this matchmaking ?

Why your balance is only about pro playing ? Oh he appears too much on the world, let's nerf him ! Great sense of balancing things...

The truth is that you are money hungry. You make skins and you buff the champs who receive skins. Look at Lux. She isn't annoying enough ? No, let's buff the shield ! They nerfed it, it's was a mistake because the sells went down, so let's buff her again.

And this horrible thing called "TFT". You want to delete 3c3 when you already deleted Dominion who was fun, Nexus blizt who was okay and needed some changes but who was a good idea.

To replace it with this ugly, monstrous, money grab thing called TFT !!!

Only RNG, 99% luck, 1% skill. And the Hextech isn't helping. When all you have to do is to buy Draven and put him 3 item to see him delete the entire enemy team or make the glacial team or Chogath Varus with AP items to win, but where is the fun ?

It's was fun for the 3 first games. After it's boring and too much RNG. We post feedback on the board and what you guys do ? Nothing. You add more RNG with Hextech instead of focusing on the problem.

We keep saying "too much dmg" accross the board, and what you do ? Nothing. There is more buffs than nerf... When i see my death recap, there is a lot of true dmg. True dmg everywhere !! Look at the death recap and the amount of true dmg you take ! It's incredible and shocking.

You buff 10 champs and you nerf 5 one per patch. In a few years, im sure the champs will be oneshooting someone with one spell from lvl 1 at this rate.

But you don't care, as long you make money from E-sport and your skins. That why i stopped buying skins. It's disguting to see how you are turning a fun game into a cash maker.

I don't mind the idea of making money because a game should be profitable and it's your game. But the quality of the game have decreased and the price only went up.

Skins, chromas, little legends, Prestige editions... It's crazy how much work you put into your marketing but how lazy you are when it's come to balance your game.

Let's hope you will change some things because i'm really asking if i should give up LOL. I like the universe, it's was my favorite game for like 9 years but now, i'm not feeling good anymore.

But everything is like this. For example : Amusement Park. When they are small and unknown, they are funnier. You enjoy the attractions, you don't spend up 2 hours in the queues.

But when it's bigger, you have to wait for everything, you can't enjoy like you did before, it's expensive...

LOL is like an amusement park. Years ago, it's was fun because you was listening to your playerbase, you was not hungry for money, you was caring about fun.

Now, it's has become a big amusement park and it's not fun anymore. You have more and more players and you focus more and more on the money. The quality is decreasing...

41 Comments

Bjørnetjenesten25 votes

Steps to have fun playing League:

  1. Skip TFT.

  2. Realize that NOBODY actually cares about your "rank" in a video game, other than your own ego So play without any expectations... whatsoever. Focus on having fun/expressing your own skill, rather than winning. AKA play without your ego.

  3. Use "mute all", many players are toxic garbage so its better to not let them suck your mental energy and ruin your mood.

  4. Never pay for anything in League... ever. No skins, no chroma shit, no little legend rats and no eternals.

  5. Never expect anything from riot games, this way you will never be disappointed by their decisions.

  6. If you are not having fun and are feeling frustrated/drained after playing; go uninstall, take a break, come back in a few months. Not much will have changed and if something did, it doesn't really matter... you won't be missing out.

  7. If somebody is inting in your game and "ruining" the game for you, just go afk. You dont need this shit in your life, and a potential 14 day ban is probably worth the energy saved by getting through that shit game anyway. Use that energy for something else.

Lil Homie busta1 votes

I've logged just to say this:

Sir, your text is the embodiment of the good sense.

RadeticDraws14 votes

NO, it is not possible and never will be, ever again, as long as anti-fun mechanics are implemented in the game, trolls and inters not punished, and Riot's whole department caring only about money now, we will never have fun in this game again

Too much dmg Too much mobility Too much cooldown reduction Too much cc

And a God awful matchmaking which doesnt reward you for being good but constantly looks at which way to connect you to the worst possible players which shouldnt even be in their divisions, judging by their game knowledge

Souji11 votes

Honestly. Yeah. I'm rarely enjoying the game anymore. Try playing on another of my accounts. Still no fun. Still uneven matches. Still getting stomped in a lot of games. I'm playing worse. My mental has tanked due to the sheer amount of hopeless feeling games. You're doing alright mid? Neat. But everyone else is losing. You're getting killed in 3 autos by the fed Jhin before you can even oneshot anyone as Talon. I'm bad. It's hard to roam if the enemy jungle is exerting so much pressure mid while your whole team is still losing lanes. Its too scary to leave lane when you KNOW the enemy jungler will be right there waiting for you. Or there will be those games where I'm just so heavily outclassed in my lane by more skilled players. I miss Season 5. Things were fun. I had loads of fun. Season 6. Also relatively fun. But less so. Season 7. A lot less fun but each new season my enjoyment of the game has diminished greatly. I can't even enjoy NORMALS anymore without a stomp. Riot please. How can I try new champions if I'm going to be facing better players? Reworks are actually causing more frustration almost imo. Especially some new champs.

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

MemoriesMakeMe2 votes

Around the juggernaut patch was when things started to go downhill for me. Season 5 was nice

preternatural5 votes

I have lots of fun each time I play league.

Serika Zero5 votes

The amusing part is the irony of your post.

The game has turned into a "no mistake" game mixed with RNG and a very bad matchmaking, very bad runes...

Actually, the game is more forgiving that its ever been.

  • Bad positioning? here lots of mobility to make up for that
  • Did you die a lot to your enemy? here, shut down gold on the enemy, the moment they make the slightest mistake, they lose all their advantage and now your past mistakes get erased
  • Did the enemies get to far ahead? no problem, the damage is high enough to allow you to kill them if they make a mistake and not get rolled over
  • Are the enemies ahead based on your mistakes and now they are playing the map? don't worry, we removed most warding options to ensure that you can still keep spots of darkness on the map to make picks and comeback.
GodOfMonkeys1 votes

And Wukong ? Treating us like shit, rework was announced in January, how many champions have been changed since then ? Worst part is, they don't even tell us what's going on, absolute silence. I feel cowardice in your speech, this is not how a Man should be.

Serika Zero1 votes

idk anything about wukong, so, i won't comment on that

DapaSquid2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Serika Zero,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HT05Ohdu,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-08-18T13:55:18.106+0000)

The amusing part is the irony of your post.

Actually, the game is more forgiving that its ever been.

  • Bad positioning? here lots of mobility to make up for that
  • Did you die a lot to your enemy? here, shut down gold on the enemy, the moment they make the slightest mistake, they lose all their advantage and now your past mistakes get erased
  • Did the enemies get to far ahead? no problem, the damage is high enough to allow you to kill them if they make a mistake and not get rolled over
  • Are the enemies ahead based on your mistakes and now they are playing the map? don't worry, we removed most warding options to ensure that you can still keep spots of darkness on the map to make picks and comeback.

White knight lies.

Serika Zero1 votes

ok, i'll bite. I'm such a white knight, I shine thou darkness. And when i walk by the beach, sinners cover their eyes as they can't withstand my divine radiance.

Now, can you provide any argument regarding what i said being invalid? Why I'm lying? or, why did i did a mistake? Where I'm wrong?

DapaSquid1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Serika Zero,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HT05Ohdu,comment-id=000900010000,timestamp=2019-08-19T04:14:13.994+0000)

ok, i'll bite. I'm such a white knight, I shine thou darkness. And when i walk by the beach, sinners cover their eyes as they can't withstand my divine radiance.

Now, can you provide any argument regarding what i said being invalid? Why I'm lying? or, why did i did a mistake? Where I'm wrong?

No point saying anything more tbh. Not worth the effort talking to a delusional brick wall.

Makarakarn5 votes

Fun is subjective. Regardless of any one person's opinion on this thread, no one can technically be "right". It's up to the individual to decide whether or not something is fun. If you don't have fun with the game, take a long break. Don't force yourself to play it. Just wait till the next pre season or something that might interest you, because playing when you don't want to is going to permanently burn you out. Unless of course you never want to play again, in which case go crazy,

Harden Stepback4 votes

I think many of us are starting to outgrow the game, nothing lasts forever.

WoonStruck3 votes

No, they've just been making the game quite legitimately worse over the years.

If me and friends can play games like SSBM and Maplestory for 10+ years without it getting stale, pretty sure a competitive game like League wouldn't get stale unless the management of it sucked.

Hell, people still play SC:BW and CS:GO. The problem isn't the age, its the management of the game.

Jennifer4204 votes

play assassins/bruisers if you want to have fun. rest gets blown up by said champs

Dabrick013 votes

Step 1: Stop complaining, no one really cares and they aren't listening to you anyway. You know how when a teammate gets killed and they start screaming about how that champ or item or feature is stupid? Don't you chuckle to yourself and ignore their pathetic whining? I sure do. That's what everyone on these boards sounds like, Bronze Galio players.

Step 2: Just don't play ranked. This is where my personal preference takes over, but Ranked is full of the worst kinds of people from tryhards to trolls and everything in between. While you might say you're untiltable, you still play with your rank in mind, making anything like a bad player, troll, or balance issue that much worse in your head.

Step 3: Main a champ or a few that are fun to play. Understand their matchups and don't use any other champ to counter pick. I played Yorick, Kennen, and Shen almost exclusively when I wanted to play Top lane. That way, the champ is fun for me, and even when I get dumpstered, I can still have fun.

Step 4: If this is impacting your mental state, then leave. If you are getting so unbelievably angry about something you really can't control, cut it out of your life. At the very least it impacts, you but here's something ya'll aren't ready to hear: You hurt others more than you hurt the company with complaining posts like these. They are saddening and draining to see and read. Complaining in-game destroys people's mental and makes them hate you and that game.

Know this: Complaining about the state of the game is something that Riot will listen to from its money makers, (that's streamers, pro-players, and maybe the top 1% aka. the ones that ACTUALLY understand the game and how balance works).

If Riot has thought up reasons to do what they do, then we and our shitty complaints are null and void. We have no idea what the situation is on the corporate side with their combination of Tencent and other important investors. So they don't care because we don't understand.

LaceUpXX2 votes

When my mid laner goes 1-14 in the first 25 mins of the game and my top laner also has 10 deaths, not League is not fun. Trolls are what makes this game unfun.

wolfclaw38122 votes
  1. Punish intentional trolling. Some things need to be stopped, and trolls are one of them.
  2. If someone is simply unable to keep up, put them in a lower skill bracket. Don't give them godlike teammates that are far stronger than the rank/skill level to help them stay in a level they don't belong.
  3. If someone is completely destroying everyone they fight, put them into a higher skill bracket. Don't give them godlike opponents that are far out of their league(lol) to kick them out of the level they belong in.
  4. Do we really need this many cc, self-healing, true/massive damage abilities?
  5. There are a lot of champions that have massive banrates, and there are good reasons too. Either they're too strong, and whoever gets them wins, or they're too weak, and whoever gets them loses, or the championYasuo is accompanied by trollers/feeders, and no one likes trolls or feeders. Banned champions should be counters to the champion a player wants to play, not champions that are just way too strong against everyone.
  6. Oh and stop locking stuff behind a paywall.

As spoken by a bronze 3 who has no knowledge of the game and has to deal with strong opponents/weak teammates/trolls.

Handy Sandy 1 votes
  1. Punish intentional trolling. Some things need to be stopped, and trolls are one of them.

This is impossible. You need a human to review a game and find someone trolling as long as they aren't typing. This means you need someone to watch hundreds of thousands of reports daily.

  1. Do we really need this many cc, self-healing, true/massive damage abilities?

Yes, this is what makes champions not just copypaste characters with 4 ways to do damage.

  1. Oh and stop locking stuff behind a paywall.

*stuff that is purely cosmetic

There's unbalanced games yeah, but if you play like 100 games the majority of them will be somewhat balanced. We just like to flame riot when we lose the past like 3 or 4 games in a row. Matchmaking can also feel unbalanced because people play better/worse depending on the game, and there's factors like early leads that make the midgame feel terrible for the other team.. Every moba deals with this and it's impossible to fix as well.

LostInTheDark072 votes

For those saying the balance is made around pro play that s BS. Did any of you see that clown fiesta in pro plays? There is a complete stomp by either side, that doesn t look like balance at all, it s just pure clown fiesta. Once a team got a lead it s just a matter of time till they end the game, combacks are not possible anymore unless the leading team is throwing the game for some reason.

One shot fiesta is real in pro plays and solo Q there is no difference between solo Q and pro plays, the only difference is that they play as a team and are more coordinated and that s all no balanced games nothing.

I also liked Nexus Blitz and just because they decided to bring TFT over Nexus Blitz, I haven t played a single game of TFT since it was release and those who loved NB should do the same. I don t want to support this trash company who took this decision against a big number of players loving NB which was so damn fun.They could have improved NB even more if they wanted they could have brought cosmetics or new poros following you and bring new random challenges every game.

This game is garbage tho, we don t have outplay anymore just outdamaged/outcced. Most of games are just won from champion select because the other team got more dmg/ CC output and they win only cause of that. The more CC/ DMG you got the easier win is.

In ranked, matchmaking is dogs*it, many times I got apes going for dragon over baron and we lost cause of that. I spammed go for baron but they just farmed around instead and the enemy team did it and they ended the game. In ranked your skill supposed to make a difference but now games are too much team reliant and you skill doesn t matter much because the worst team mate has the greatest impact. If any of your lane/lanes fed more than the lane/lanes of the enemy team then is GG. It only matters who got the worst team mate/team mates. What s even worse is because of some apes your MMR is affected and you start to get more team mates like that and go on losing streak and it s hard to get out of that. Their system doesn t care that you lost the game cause of some apes it just strikes your MMR. Disgusting company, disgusting game.

IainG101 votes

Balance is based around pro play; but not in the way you're suggesting.

It is NOT based around the actual players or what would make interesting tactics or ensure reasonably balanced matches between most comps. It IS based around what will look flashy for the #BigPlays for people with little-to-no understanding of the game.

It's not balanced around current players watching and thinking 'that was clever, I should try that tactic'; it's balanced around non-players watching and thinking 'that looks cool, I might try it'. Proplay has become an ad more than a showcase of skill.

On everything else you are 100% correct.

Dyromic1 votes

I only have fun when I'm playin ARAM or playing Draft pick with a couple of friends and each of us do some dumb off-meta build.

Ranked is unbearable, matchmaking makes sure that you won't be climbing easily and after a couple of loses your MMR will be ruined for the rest of the season (because appearantly it's healthy design to fight against the system itself and try to have a long winstreak when it's actively f$#&$ you over.

Anatera1 votes

You have to do two things to have fun:

Play with friends and not take it seriously.

Playing normally guarantees you'll encounter trolls, afkers and inters and taking it seriously will make it obvious that Riot's balance team suck at their job.

yung settings1 votes

i don't enjoy the game as much the same way i don't enjoy overwatch, the fact that just about anyone being able to delete someone and the fact some champions just invalidate someone's existence because they exist.

Sincerely Jun1 votes

If you want to have fun in league you need friends to play wit, like people you actually like to play with , who you try to impress, who make you want to be a better player, so when you do that amazing play and they go OHHHHHHH, YOUR LIKE OHHHHHHHHH WITH THEM

Lord Morcalivan1 votes

ARAM is the solution. If you can't have fun there, then find a new game. Maybe Heroes of the Storm. While HotS is faster, it is much more auto-team oriented. No idiotic gold system that will actually reward trolling. Just be aware that there is mobility creep in HotS as well.

Normal Draft also helps some. But be on guard, especially in Blind. When people call Support, they rarely actually mean it. Most don't take gold items and instead go for your minions. But only after you spend mana weakening them or are about to attack them. They leave the rest of the minions alone. And your team won't share gold from other lanes either. You can sell your first item and grab a gold item yourself, which is usually the best bet if you can reliably land hits. After that roam lanes and support the entire team. But mute chat first since your team is too dumb to figure out your strategy.

Other than that, you're screwed.

Vonyalo1 votes

It is possible if you focus on having fun, not climbing the ladder. You can't have both.

IainG101 votes

Sadly for some of us progression is the lion's share of the fun.

ihateyouallmuted1 votes

It is very easy to have fun - play bots.

OneMustFall1 votes

Most of what you said is completely the opposite in my experience. There are plenty of comebacks in games, there are more throws than ever. Bounties allow teams to comeback much easier than in previous seasons. People are loving TFT. The game isn't perfect and there are definitely some things that I think should be changed but most of your points I don't agree with at all.

5050BS1 votes

GLHF is something you cant do if you are playing Ranked to win.

If you are wanting to Troll then GLHF is 100% doable.

MasterDClone1 votes

i dont know my champion is in the shitter but im having fun playing this game almost every game, the is like its always been just under a new meta

GayrensTari1 votes

If you ever wanna play eazy mode of this game, you are welcome to come to play vs Ai.

GilxeN1 votes

When I posted that game has too much CC, got downvoted and thrown out that I am "noob" because I did not buy merchtreads and specifically didnt get "unflinching rune", no rofl even If I have 50% tenacity I am still dead under first thrown CC. One of the reason why this game is unfun, too much CC, too much damage, too much snowballing potential.

Linda de Mol1 votes

I truly enjoy Teamfight Tactics.

MrCakeThe1st1 votes

If you want to have some fun, group up with some friends and do real crazy ideas like yuumi with eve so theg go invisible together, or just play aram with friends.

MooooooooreDakka1 votes

Honestly, I've been having quite a bit of fun with League recently. I definitely have had some unpleasant games but more often than not, those are due to people being toxic rather than the game itself and I've also had a bunch of games that felt both competitive and fun. The game certainly isn't perfect but the current state isn't flawed enough to stop me from enjoying it.

Zullar1 votes

League needs more mobility, more burst, and more champions that don't have counterplay. Also needs more snowballing. CertainlyT needs to make more champions.

Support Position1 votes

I thought the same. Till I went to Aram. Jesus christ... Arams balancing is a universe better than Summoners Rift... Its insane...

Then again some things are still awful (Like not getting a good champion.) but just try your best and go next. Before finding how good aram was the other day I was thinking of Deactivating my account for a Hiatus. Now Arams addictive. Screw the Unbalanced Rift.

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