Can Zoe w not make her move at mach 5

a little on the weak side, but considering yasuo also rarely drops much lower, better to keep them as little annoying as possible

https://champion.gg/champion/Zoe/Middle?league= https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Zoe/ https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/zoe

Lolalytics is interesting because it actually frames statistics based on rank better than others. Something worth noting: If you're playing Zoe in Plat+, you're probably halfway proficient with her.

If you look at Lolalytics with Gold ranked players....

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/gold/champion/Zoe/

She drops a % point.

Silver...... where the bulk of players are (70% are below Silver), https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/silver/champion/Zoe/

In other words, he's right. There is a major skill ceiling. Her win rate plummets with skill elo.

That being said, there's an irony in talking win rates with Zoe, because prior to her "Nerfs" she never even passed 46% win rate. She actually became LESS skill intensive after her "nerfs" Because they moved her damage around to different parts of her kit, making her less reliant on Q. Now she actually uses W, and gets in a lot more auto attacks to proc sheens/sparkles.

KR is the best region by far, so it obviously isn't "trash to grab data from" when talking about balance or build paths

champion.gg: 48% NA league of graphs: 48% NA lolalytics: 49% NA

No really, Zoe is a very mechanically intensive champion whose excellent use of w's minion RNG sets apart good Zoes from great Zoes.

Well, the fact that she's a mechanically intensive champion with a high skill floor and ceiling is correct. Also the fact that her win rate isn't that good.

That being said, she's extremely strong when players put time into learning her, so I agree she doesn't need any buffs to say the least.

###Meanwhile Yasuo gets compensation buffs the fucking second he drops below 49% or when a change that seems to indirectly nerf him gets shipped, despite having a low skill floor. ###Double standards much.

Not even close to how it actually happens.

Getting the range right to maximize damage on Q is extremely hard, especially if you can't get the E to hit. And it doesn't one shot without the E anyways. It might 40% you. It's also got a tiny hit box, low duration to aim it, and players usually know it's coming so they act accordingly.

A tiny bit of magic resist really shuts her down too.

Also, the combo puts her in a compromising position: if her target isn't alone, they have a very real opportunity to snipe her on sight when she R's. Really easy to just wait for her to hop, and 1 shot her when she lands back at starting point.

Furthermore, Spam flashes in pvp......that requires her to actually have a clear path to them, either through R's, or chicken crap opponents running away and not covering their backs. She is a 2 shot kill.... if she just runs into enemy fights to pick up summoner's, she's dead before she gets one.

It's not at all easy.

She basically annoys the crap out of a mid laner. 1v1, she sucks to go against. But generally Top/Junglers/Bots, love to be vs her because once the game gets moving, they annihilate her. Mid..... there aren't many champs who can work around her and the minion summoner bubbles. She can hop over a minion wave and only has to worry about 1 1/2 players vs her (jungle sometimes). Makes linear play more doable.

P.S. I haven't played Zoe much at all on any of my accounts in the last 5 months because I don't trust her. Initially I thought she was fun, until I realized that after the games became team fights, Zoe became a liability, and her lane phase farm is difficult to master. (It can't one shot minion waves unless you position perfect, only gets half the wave, and has a longer cooldown than most mid clear skills that actually clear entire waves. If she's going to get ahead as a mid, she basically has to get kills. Which isn't easy, and is risky).

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Here let me list the other artillery mages that have an escape.

Oh and Zoe can also pick up a flash LEL

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Land your over buffed charm and kill her.

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Here we are talking about a champion that moves very fast , besides even if landed , depending on her sums she picks from minions , she can't always die

I was attempting a joke, and Phase rush on Zoe is REALLY hard to proc, because it's really difficult to do her job with it, and in most cases she can only guarantee 2 hits within the time parameters.

I mean it could be semi viable, but not as viable as on Zyra.... because Zyra has proxy damage dealers. Spread plants and run. Zoe has to get in deep.

Accidentally picking up Ignite from a Zed who flash-ignited me is extremely annoying, lol

I feel like I said she used her W lol