Please revert GLP

Jivewolf·Mar 11, 2018·23 votes·1,282 views

The item sucks now

19 Comments

RenownedWheat42Mar 11, 20188 votes

I frickin hate new GLP man. :/

Total EclipseMar 12, 20186 votes

OP is completely right, however I think the most recent buffs make it a decent item. With the return of some of the raw damage and a huge boost to the slow, youre basically looking at a trade of 300 HP for 10/20 cdr AND a pimped out slow. The item is usable as of 8.5, but I will say that it was hot garbage last patch. Coming from an experienced Swain player.

SanKakUMar 12, 20184 votes

The eternity passive is more than 300 extra HP though.

Total EclipseMar 13, 20181 votes

This is actually a good point. Just shows how shit the item was in 8.4.

RenownedWheat42Mar 13, 20181 votes

Prior to 8.4 I built it pretty regularly on new Swain (in tandem with Glacial Augment and Iceborn Gauntlet for a "you never get to move" build). Now it's a chore finding any way to fit it into my build.

It's usable now for sure but it's not even close to being the item I used to love and built my playstyle around.

FairyfleurMar 11, 20183 votes

Why? It was only bought on 1-3 champions, if people aren’t buying it now they just need to buff the numbers or nerf the competition; reverting it won’t fix anything.

BonipherusMar 12, 20182 votes

i soo miss my glacial augment Singed with item 3030 item 3116 item 3143

Raven RedeemedMar 12, 20182 votes

It’s a great aram item, but don’t tell my opponents that.

RocketRelmMar 12, 20182 votes

On aram you're gonna want tear over it anyway. The active is pretty good, but so's a 600 HP shield and 60+ AP.

Raven RedeemedMar 12, 20181 votes

The active is really good. Depending on your champ, you can almost guarantee a pick with your own follow-up cc which is way more powerful in a game mode where everyone is grouped from the start.

Of course it depends on your champ and the enemy comp, but making a pick/having a numbers advantage is often more valuable than one shield or extra poke dmg.

RocketRelmMar 12, 20181 votes

While you do have a point, very rarely will you have no catch potential in your team. If your champion doesn't use the AP well it's potentially better, but most champions like the AP surge.

More importantly, if you want the catch potential that badly, just take both. I'm not even kidding. Ignoring the mana value and the haste cdr, it still gives 130+ AP and 10% cdr and a 600+ Shield Active. That's pretty damn good for 3100 gold, and that's if your mana needs are truly 100% met by GLP.

The funny thing. is, they try to dissuade taking two mana items with the cdr not fully stacking, but. the extra 500 mana equals 15 more AP 'anyway', which washes out. the gold value of the stats lost from doubling up on Haste.

Raven RedeemedMar 13, 20181 votes

I was more talking about catch reliability instead of potential. I can of course cast Q as lux and hope the enemy does not doge it, but I know an immobile champ can't doge glp active and the subsequent Lux Q (not that lux would want glp due to her high mana costs and large scaling).

Interesting point on double mana items. I'd had not run the numbers so that's good info. And I'm not trying to defend glp's current state either; I know the game should be balance around SR.