Having the skin come out and everyone playing Leona Lucian bot is a good reminder that even with her last e width nerf, her kit is too oppressive. You can't win lane at lvl 1 and she can engage lvl 2 already. In my opinion they should remove her e scalings with armor/mr and just up the Ult CD. It can't be that she can use it almost as often as a Lux ult in late team fights or just cap some of the range of it.
ADepressedLeona6 votesThis is probably bait... but I'm gonna respond anyways.
Leona has a ton of weaknesses to exploit. She has no healing, she has no way of harassing outside of being in your face. Leona is the very definition of an all or nothing champion (considering once she gets behind it's really, really hard to catch back up without some sort of help). Can Leona be a forced to be reckoned with? Absolutely, and once she gets ahead, it can be a very tough lane (But that goes for everyone, really.) If you keep the bush warded, properly harass, and mind Leona's E, you should be fine (Not to mention any support that can stop her E, and their is a lot of them, make the laning hard for her.) All in all, I believe Leona is actually one of the most balanced champions in the game.
If you REALLY want to see an overloaded, oppressive support kit, let me introduce you to 
JnFnRu1 votesBut with Face of the Mountain she gets sustain that should be her weakness.
ADepressedLeona4 votesBut with Face of the Mountain she gets sustain that should be her weakness.
With FoM she gets a 40 hp heal on 4 charges, and she has to kill a minion near an ally to do it.
I wouldn't call that sustain in the slightest.
Zmuecat1 votesMinor correction, Face has 50HP heal, the original item 
has a 40HP heal with 2 charges on a 60 second cooldown.
These heals are 40 HP to the ADC, and 40 HP to the tank, granting 80 HP every 60 seconds (or 160 if you use two charges really fast) to two champions for no mana. While the tank could use the extra HP for putting herself within harass distance, the ADC does not need the extra hitpoints for the tank generating gold, especially since most ADCs sustain themselves by last hitting.
The heal to the ADC needs to be removed, it gives (minor) sustain for the ADC to a group of champions that do not need it. Tanks, as a whole, in bot lane need a nerf, and this seems to be a good place to start without smacking each and everyone of them individually. Compensate with more flat HP on the item, or improved self heal.
ADepressedLeona2 votesMinor correction, Face has 50HP heal, the original item
These heals are 40 HP to the ADC, and 40 HP to the tank, granting 80 HP every 60 seconds (or 160 if you use two charges really fast) to two champions for no mana. While the tank could use the extra HP for putting herself within harass distance, the ADC does not need the extra hitpoints for the tank generating gold, especially since most ADCs sustain themselves by last hitting.
The heal to the ADC needs to be removed, it gives (minor) sustain for the ADC to a group of champions that do not need it. Tanks, as a whole, in bot lane need a nerf, and this seems to be a good place to start without smacking each and everyone of them individually. Compensate with more flat HP on the item, or improved self heal.
What? Tanks in bot lane need a nerf?
Why exactly?
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What? Tanks in bot lane need a nerf?
Why exactly?
Because there's a reason the only mage who's seen consistent bot lane play this season is the one who hard counters tank supports - Janna.
Support meta has been "any tank + Janna" for a long time now and Janna is only relevant because as long as tanks are in, she is too. Heck, we've seen more of Trundle support this season than we've seen of Nami and she's a mage support who's typically considered to have an LCS-friendly kit.
ADepressedLeona1 votesBecause there's a reason the only mage who's seen consistent bot lane play this season is the one who hard counters tank supports - Janna.
Support meta has been "any tank + Janna" for a long time now and Janna is only relevant because as long as tanks are in, she is too. Heck, we've seen more of Trundle support this season than we've seen of Nami and she's a mage support who's typically considered to have an LCS-friendly kit.
Where exactly have you seen Trundle support. Also I'm pretty sure people established that Nami was really strong. Also Janna would be relevant even if there were 0 tank supports, being able to push all those pesky assassins off your ADC is pretty great.
Kouga3 votesHaving the skin come out just reminded me that Leona is really fun to play.
I don't think she's much of a problem because unlike most of the commonly bitched-about Supports (Blitz, Thresh, etc) Leona has to commit even harder to the fight. And some Champs can make her life pretty tough. I was an ADC with a support Leona, versus a Braum & Jinx. Every time Leona went in on Jinx (because Leona only has Back Off or Go Ham), Braum just put up his wall and I was cut off from the fight, leaving Leona to take a ton of damage. Granted it was also because we weren't calling our engages very well, but point is the playstyle is not universal and can be a drawback.
But my last game was Leona. Team started to back off when I went in 1v5. They collapsed on me, I Ulted on top of me. I died, and then my team aced them .5 seconds later, pushed and won.
AccountaBilabudy3 votesLeona is the least of any bot lane player's concern. 
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Mr Broken Wings2 votesI dont see how any ad carry who isnt ashe or jinx would have any problems with leona in lane, she has no poke at all and with just a little bit disengage ( nearly every champ has that) and a bit of brain the lane is really relaxing compared to other matchups imo. At least its interactive, with janna you just hide in bush press e and collect freeelo.
DrCyanide2 votesWhat abilities are overloaded in Leona's kit? Seriously, what are you talking about?
JnFnRu1 votesWell she has a short cd stun on her Q for one.
Her e also roots which as much as it is a brilliant engage that goes through minions it also keeps people in place.
Her short cd Ult basically stunning for the same duration as a 
Ult but much shorter CD and further range.
Her e which makes her super tanky already and then scales off of the more armor/mr she buys which leona always does.
DrCyanide2 votesWell she has a short cd stun on her Q for one.
That's not overloaded, as that's all it does.
Her e also roots which as much as it is a brilliant engage that goes through minions it also keeps people in place.
Again, that's not overloaded.
Her short cd Ult basically stunning for the same duration as a
Still not overloaded. Sona's ult also gives no warning.
Her e which makes her super tanky already and then scales off of the more armor/mr she buys which leona always does.
Strong scaling ability, but still not overloaded
OK, it's clear you don't know what "overloaded" is.
Lets look at Thresh's W as a comparison of an overloaded ability:
Or we can look at Ekko's W:
None of Leona's abilities come close to having that much "stuff" crammed into them. Her Zenith Blade follows the same pattern as Thresh and Naut hooks (I hooked my target, and they can't move on their own now), with the difference being its shorter range in exchange for going over minions.
JnFnRu2 votesLet me change overloaded to oppressive!
At least with naut and Thresh you can try and hide behind minions.
Colgate Gator2 votesI'm not sure you have the faintest idea what an "overloaded kit" means. Her kit is focused to stun and damage while she goes in to the front lines without any means of getting out other than being victorious.
Take a quick look at Ekko, that's what an overloaded kit looks like.
JnFnRu1 votesLet me rephrase overloaded to oppressive.
For example if i play my main Nami and I punish her enough lvl 1 and lvl 2, bubble her adc when she engages she is always more of a threat.
RyzeRework1 votesLeona is one of those champions that are go hard no way out lol and lucian is a very early game adc I've seen leo players playing with vaynes and get crushed its just a matter of what adc is being played but sense the meta favors thresh Janna alistar leona is useless against these champions janna pushes alistar headbuts and thresh flays making leo a very weak support in the meta
Big Lincoln1 votespick disengage
leona made useless
Marthian1 votesYou can't win lane at lvl 1 and she can engage lvl 2 already.
Leona has very little kill potential at level one. It's basically her only weakness
That said, IMO out of the power three (Blitzcrank, Thresh, Leona), she's the least problematic. Her damage is probably a little too high, but the biggest nerf she probably deserves is having the ult cast range reduced (Just too good at setting up engages.) The other two have more serious issues.
MLDzXnRRR1 votesGood Leona ult wins every teamfight, if you follow with any AOE ...
Posui Gart1 votesshe can engage lvl 2 already
She can't, unless she hits her E, and it is actually easy to dodge. Thresh can flay her while she jumps, Janna can knockup her.
she can use ult almost as often as a Lux ult in late team fights
And it is much weaker than Malphite's ult, Annie's ult or Orianna's ult, because of its delay and low stun AOE. And anyways, she can use it ONCE PER TEAMFIGHT.
Spicy Rice1 votesMost ult can generally only be used once in teamfights unless you have an insanely long teamfight
The Bearded Bard1 votesHer E doesn't have scalings, that's her W.
Aeolian Melodies1 votes
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