What champions benefit well from AS runes?

Final Remnant ·3/18/2015, 3:11:09 AM·4 votes·4,171 views

I wanted to try some AS runes and I bought 3 quints but I wasn't sure what champions would get the most benefit from them. I figured maybe someone like Tryndamere/Volibear/Gangplank/Master Yi/Yasuo ...etc just people you usually would build AS items on.

I don't see hardly anyone use AS runes on ADC champions but I suppose they would work on them even though you are sacrificing damage.

I am aware there are tons of champions that benefit from AS items but I'm focusing mostly on champions that would benefit from AS "RUNES"

32 Comments

RiotRiot ShadowStorm3/18/2015, 6:19:47 AM9 votes

AS quints are actually pretty common on many ADC runepages from what I've seen. Certainly a viable use if you run them with AD reds.

I know some tank junglers take them to help w/ early clears. You also see them on certain top lane fighters, particularly those that care about on-hit effects. Irelia and Fizz are two that jump to mind. And then if you don't have AD quints, other AA-heavy fighters (Aatrox, Jax, Trundle) can make use of them as well.

Laughing Fish3/18/2015, 12:26:01 PM2 votes

I run AS quints (usually with AD reds) on the following champs: Volibear Warwick Vayne Rengar RekSai Lucian Ashe Caitlyn Evelynn Garen Kayle KogMaw Khazix MasterYi Pantheon Poppy Shaco Shyvana Sivir Trundle Tryndamere Udyr Urgot . I find it dramatically increases clear speed in the jungle, and a little bit of AS really helps with farming in lane.

FantasySniper3/19/2015, 2:02:09 AM2 votes

Anyone with an on-hit based playstyle.

Vayne KogMaw MasterYi Twitch and maybe some off-builds like Lulu and Thresh

LoRdJeSuS69694203/19/2015, 3:54:54 AM2 votes

The general rule is that they are good on champions whose abilities amplify their auto attacks rather than being nukes themselves. For instance, darius probably scales better off of armor pen or AD because his abilities scale with it in addition to his auto attacks. Someone like tryndamere or vayne, however, are based almost entirely off their auto attacks, and so derive maximum benefit from it.

ModWulf Helhammer3/18/2015, 4:38:35 AM2 votes

Maybe champs with stacking mechanisms, like Twitch, Vayne, Varus, or Gnar? I really have no idea, these just seemed like some champs that might make some use of them

PowerBurger3/18/2015, 10:07:15 AM2 votes

I plan to buy some for Lulu jungle.

But as was already mentioned, AP junglers.

IwfiKe3qjM3/18/2015, 12:17:23 PM1 votes

anyone who DPS type maybe...

most of ADC too...

and maybe Warwick (proc Wit End faster) or Shyvana (so can get Dragon quicker and can be forever since her Fury always regenerate through autoattck in both form) too... Jax, Irelia, Kayle, Udyr and Master Yi in lesser extent...

for jungler maybe anyone who go Devourer...

Only Play Darius3/18/2015, 12:21:18 PM1 votes

MasterYi for more double-strikes and shorter cooldowns on alpha strike.

XinZhao for more healing.

Diana for more frequent cleaves.

Nocturne for obvious reasons.

Volibear since he scales nicely with attack speed.

Warwick for improved sustain.

Zed to revert the nerfs to his attack speed growth.

Renaille3/18/2015, 12:28:10 PM1 votes

Kayle AS marks more than quints.

Duke Anax3/18/2015, 1:29:24 PM1 votes

You want AS on anyone that has high base AD or on hit effects, that is true for both runes and items.

However AS quints aren't that effective, though they are still better than AD or penetration quints.

But I usually go with AS marks and use some defensive quints. (AS marks are better than AS quints and Armor quits are better than armor seals)

Phrite3/18/2015, 3:19:49 PM1 votes

On ADC I run AS quints with AD reds.

windwolf7773/19/2015, 1:40:56 AM1 votes

Ok, I have a question to add onto op's question. When do you take scaling IAS vs flat IAS?

Wînter Fox3/19/2015, 3:47:55 AM1 votes

You guys are forgetting our new AS god -

Bard

KING ATTILA3/19/2015, 4:22:22 AM1 votes

Tryndamere

Jaygo413/18/2015, 3:16:17 AM1 votes

AP junglers take AS runes for clearing because the autos do more than their abilities that early

Tavish3/19/2015, 4:23:15 AM1 votes

Udyr right?

3tyson3/18/2015, 4:24:54 AM1 votes

i heard its good on reksai

i actualy bought them for gnar but i dont think they really help him much

EvilMerodach3/18/2015, 7:36:50 AM1 votes

TL;DR: For your adc list. Try out

Aatrox Ashe Caitlyn Chogath Darius Fizz Maokai MasterYi MissFortune Pantheon Shyvana Teemo Twitch Varus Vayne XinZhao Irelia Tryndamere/Volibear/Yasuo I'm unsure if that would be optimal. Trynd I'm almost sure you're better off with AD or armor pen, he gets nothing extra from attack speed. So you're better off hitting less times, but just hitting harder when you do hit. Yasuo, maybe, cause of Q cooldown? Though with his passive, crit's probably going to win out, or just flat AD still and just hit harder when you do hit. If you wanna spam them whirlwinds and zone with it, it might be worthwhile.

Which lane are you talking about for this? Cause that does change a lot. Junglers in general favor attack speed over damage, cause they'll almost always be attacking at max speed while farming. While laners will generally not get to attack at max speeds, more poke and last hit, so AS is mostly going to be wasted in the laning phase (which is generally what runes are for anyway.) Unless you can get a quick triple hit off with Vayne / Varus for some heavy poke.

I put Maokai in there as kind of a special case. His passive only requires a single auto, but I remember Phreak running AS red's on him because when you need to get that auto off to get some health back, you want to do it as fast as possible so you have less time to take return damage/wasting the point of triggering passive to get health back, I tried it, and really like it. Just makes the auto timing feel so much better. ~disclaimer, unsure if Phreak or anyone 'pro' still considers that a good/viable option. I still like it though.

Some I listed simply because they do have a scaling with attack speed like Caitlyn (with her headshot,) though her AD scaling is so high, I can't see it winning out unless you're brush hugging a -lot- and getting headshots pokes on enemy adc continually (unlikely to do that and not miss out on some CS)

Smaller list to work with Chogath Darius MasterYi MissFortune Pantheon Shyvana Teemo Twitch Varus Vayne

Another thing to think about, especially bot lane, is who you're laning against. If you outrange them, you can sometimes get free hits without them even getting reply damage off. So AS could win out. Where if they have a ranged support/their adc outranges you, sustain (lifesteal) or ar.pen/flat AD probably win out cause it'll make your trades hit harder, and you'll be forced to trade damage mostly and not get free/unreplied damage. Also, if you have support Braum AS suddenly gains utility(yay free stuns,) even on adcs that have no AS utility, so makes it viable on some champs that might not normally run it. Draven Ezreal Graves Lucian Sivir

windwolf7773/18/2015, 7:39:00 AM1 votes

could use some (maybe like a quint and 2 reds or something like that) for more true damage procs (I actually prefer full attack speed reds and quints and pretty much ony use her ult for the invis. ((I usually forget about the chasing aspect as well))
more ult procs and getting his passive stacked up faster
/ more spear/poison procs (and in 's case more jumping)
slightly more passive procs but might not be noticable and ad would be better
ANYBODY who's core item is
ANYBODY who has natural on hit effects that don't have a duration/non stacking effect (so maybe not as her arrows don't get better via stacking)

EDIT: FORGOT SOME

for early game headshot harass but might prefer more AD/Lifesteal
terrible AS without powpow stacks

Wullf3/18/2015, 10:03:21 AM1 votes

These two benefit from AS greatly: Jax XinZhao

DanofDemacia3/18/2015, 11:31:26 AM1 votes

Machine gun lulu :P all the way