What if I told you Yasuo did not actually get buffed as much as the masteries suggest?

DarthSpectrum·11/12/2015, 1:36:03 AM·19 votes·1,071 views

No seriously. The only real buff Yasuo received this patch is that his power spike hits sooner now.

The AS on critical strike was originally part of the old masteries as well, so Yasuo only got 5% more AS than he did before. The heal on critical strike has a cool down of 2 seconds. However, due to general AD nerfs on IE and BT, Yasuo does not benefit as much as the percentages suggest.

Because Yasuo lost 20 AD from items, assuming he autos 3 times in the 2 seconds, at a 2.4 crit multiplier with .2 LF, he also loses ~29 health per 2 seconds from the decreased damage.

With the keystone mastery at full build, Yasuo with item 3072 item 3031 item 3087 item 3111 item 3036 item 3102 would only heal an additional ~45 health every 2 seconds on top of his original life steal assuming he also took AD runes and the enemy has zero armor.

So what? Yasuo gains less than 16 more health every 2 seconds? That can be hardly called a buff.

Trying to get Yasuo nerfed is the wrong way to go about this. The root of the issue is that the new ADC items are a boon to Yasuo's early game, and the champions who were able to abuse Yasuo's early game were predominately AP, which were of course nerfed this patch. The ones remaining are either ADCs, whom Yasuo counters, or Assassins (50-50 match up, although most assassins generally beats Yasuo).

Instead, tell Riot to actually buff the AP itemization and champions that were shafted this patch. Ask for AP versions of items that are just as strong as the AD ones on live and Yasuo would not be so problematic to deal with anymore.

Edit: Fixed some grammar mistakes and clarified some things.

20 Comments

Darth West11/12/2015, 1:52:45 AM3 votes

FINALLY a legitimate understandable thread that isn't going.. "NERF YASUO TO THE GROUND, OP, UGH!" Extremely annoying, I never rage but I defiantly rage inside with them having no argument/valid point to back them up.

They just need to buff the AP's a bit more, they have been nerfed which is making Yasuo seem very strong. Everyone should know in a team fight, their first target should be Yasuo even if he is 0-5 . He most likely will just penta your team if you don't kill him, it's not because he's broken, it's because it should be common sense to focus a ninja down that can HASAGI your team away to hell if you give him that beautiful chance.

I used to play Yasuo everyday until I realized he is countered so damn hard by some champions that he became un-fun.

Akali is SO HOT11/12/2015, 4:57:23 AM2 votes

Sorry this place has a hard on for having Assassins and melee ADCs. Only ADCs and Mages are allowed to be strong here in G&B

Death by Glamour11/12/2015, 1:43:16 AM2 votes

I think buffing ap items will just create more pontential problems, lets just play it safe and bring the ad items into line with a few nerfs.

Drehirth11/12/2015, 6:49:26 PM1 votes

Spread the word of this thread. Free yasuo!

Stephenizgod11/12/2015, 2:05:44 AM1 votes

Well there are some bugs then, Yasuo in my game was healing for 100+ hp with his crits. Its also a bit lame he can reach 100% crit with IE and Shiv, plus the movement speed and attack speed is not helpful. Its true that its not making him on release Xin Zhao, but he is a bit oppressive now that he hits his powerspike way sooner and gets to crit way more, plus healing that much is never fun on a champion that has no Lifesteal.

MudintheWater11/12/2015, 1:43:05 AM1 votes

I've faced two yasuos since the patch with Morg and the lane has gone from easy win to massive stressful unfun pain in the ass win. It buffs the only part of his game we were allowed to abuse while we are simultaneously not allowed to have mana anymore so he can just spam his spells as fast as he can while AP champs apparently have to be gods at mana management now or we are bad players, appparently.

Seriously fuck resourceless champions this patch.

Arcana Lancer11/12/2015, 2:13:34 AM1 votes

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No seriously. The only real buff Yasuo received this patch is that his power spike hits sooner now.

Now tell me, what happens when a champion that is supposed to be a late game carry hits his powerspike MUCH EARLIER