Two Troublesome Toplaners

Frosted Tips··2 votes·1,058 views

Kennen and Quinn

Likes:

  1. Lane bullies
  2. Ranged basic attacks
  3. Oppressive
  4. Bursty
  5. Snowbally

Diffenerences:

  1. Magic damage vs Physival damage
  2. Team fighter vs Split pusher/skirmisher

I think both of these champions suffer from having a little too much. They just do too much. They get nerfed to a healthy state, but it no longer feels satisfying to play. I think they could both get the same treatment. I would suggest to make them both melee.

I dont personally know what to change in Kennen's kit to supplement that change but with Quinn Inthink you could keep her pretty similar.

My idea for Quinn:

So first thing is first Quinns base stats need a complete overhaul with her being melee. I would give her 150 attack range.

Quinn's passive would be practically the same just adding that Quinn switches to her crossbow on her either off hand or on her back and gains 375 range when attacking a target marked by harrier.

Her Q and W would stay pretty similar just maybe different CDs and damage numbers.

Her E would need a change though. I want the same idea on it, but when she is over 250 units away from her target she only bounces back to her AA range and when she is less than 250 units away from her target she bounces back the same as she currently does.

Also everytime you proc your passive Quinn reduces the cooldown of her E.

Her Ult will probably stay the same.

So what do you all think? I would love to hear your ideas and what you think of mine.

9 Comments

Hammermancer2 votes

No?

Tbh id just make kennen better as an adc(like actual ad scalings on q,e,r) and people will forget about him toplane, dont believe me? Ask graves top

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

Meanwhile lucian, jayce, draven, and vayne top have taken turns being viable top, usually for a couple months at a time. Being a marksmen doesn't mean they won't or can't go somewhere else; that applies to any class really, just ask karthus and urgot.

Alzon1 votes

O R A J U N G L E R

Hammermancer2 votes

First off jayce has been a balanced top laner for 6 years

Vayne top is only picked in a very specific meta

Lucian top is just cheese

Draven top? Ive literally never seen that

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

Jayce has been balanced around his hybrid nature similar to nidalee & elise, not many take him bottom because they're unwilling to learn how to effectively use his passive sheen, but still can shred through objectives with his attack speed steroid.

Also including multiple marksmen metas, similar to lucian, corki, ezreal, varus and quinn. Rare but never the less frustrating for most melee top laners, thanks to their ease with kiting and respectable damage.

Granted he's more often middle lane thanks to his aoe ap builds.

That was back when he came out, his passive was entirely different then, something along the lines of applying 1 second of grievous wounds on auto-attacks; like xerath he got reworked early despite being a new champion.

Moody P1 votes

kennen should be deleted and riot should apologize for making him

ankoanko191 votes

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kennen should be deleted and riot should apologize for making him

Kennen > Volibear

SithesisLord1 votes

This but unironically for Camille and Jax.

Frosted Tips1 votes

I would love to have a discussion with anyone who disagrees with me and actually has a good reasoning.

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