Peoples thoughts on kindred?
I'm curious to know what people think of kindred, for me i think she was gutted and let to be forgotten.
I'm curious to know what people think of kindred, for me i think she was gutted and let to be forgotten.
Still dumb in High Elo, the best junglers can abuse her to great lengths just with her range and mobility
"mobility" her base ms is pretty low, and her dash is on an 8 second cooldown if you don't use your w, and it's pretty short.
"mobility" her base ms is pretty low, and her dash is on an 8 second cooldown if you don't use your w, and it's pretty short.
Maxed out its literally the same as before. The only hinderance her Q provides now is lack of mobility for level 2 invades, otherwise they still kite to all hell late game.
that is of course, if your early game gets completely destroyed.
I hope she gets a rework a la Ryze. I don't like Kindred, but I don't think she's forgotten. Her kit just seems odd to me.
I'm willing to concede that might because I just don't prefer.
I dont think she needs a rework, just a buff, i love her kit, it's just so.. weak
I can't agree with that. Kindred completely cucks any engage junglers from being strong that aren't Rek'Sai. She can abuse them all early, outfarm them mid game, then completely outscale them. Her ulti is a giant cockblock to heavy single target damage. I can't agree with the statement that she needs buffs
i'm pretty happy about not seeing her
poorly designed champion with an interesting theme and shoddy execution
she was broken with devour and they deleted devour and then gutted the champ which was over kill...
they nerfed her in the wrong areas
but mainly what made her broken as she was is devour
mmh, they removed her item, and then nerfed her heal and armor.
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she was broken with devour and they deleted devour and then gutted the champ which was over kill...
they nerfed her in the wrong areas
but mainly what made her broken as she was is devour
Honestly bloodrazor is pretty strong on kindred still, maybe stronger. The late game might not be as incredibly strong, but it gives kindred a lot of early %hp damage instead of power farming for sated late game.
true, bloodrazor is a nice item on kindred.
the difference of devour and blood razor is that when you complete blood razor there are nothing to stack on it so its done... the damage from the item as strong from 1st completion to end of game where as devour was rewarding you to afk farm and be safer and stack its passive making it over all stronger when you did have it stacked. also she gets bonus damage stacks on her passive soo those two combined made her incredible hard to beat after level 6 with her ult... now she is more rewarded to be more proactive earlier in game as far as ganks and bloodrazor dont get strong from stacks.
if she is allowed to do what she was designed to do, she is too powerful, safe, and opressive
... "if she is allowed to do what she is designed to do" ....
... "if she is allowed to do what she is designed to do" ....
Kinda like kalista being designed to be an uncatchable kiting adc, what kindred was designed to be was infact an unhealthy thing to introduce in league. A jungler marksmen is just way too strong of a concept, and graves has proven that in the past and anybody above plat elo will say he's still debatably an issue.
Its hard to find that "inbetween" point with kindred being fair and balanced or kindred being allowed to do what she was designed for and being completely untolerable.
I feel like with bloodrazor making up for kindred's early Q nerf, and frozen mallet being a really strong off-tank item for kindred right now, kindred is in that balance point of being punishable early game, but hard scaling late game with random marks and items like a true marksmen. What I'm worried about is if kindred is still strong... right now kindred has a 51% winrate and is the 9th most picked jungler in korea, which is pretty iffy for something thats susposedly weak.
Unless kindred got reworked with a different identity, I don't think a kindred balanced by riot will ever be inbetween strong and weak, the kindred we're seeing now could instantly be broken again if other strong junglers got nerfed even slightly or an item gets changed.
Unfortunately they have a very good statistic performance for their average win rate. I wouldn't say buffs are needed. I made a post of my 2 cents of tweak ideas. http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/q7dK7cn2-kindred-tweaks-to-consider-for-the-preseason