@Riot Why is an 11% pick rate champ getting buffs?

BestPudgeNA··6 votes·858 views

>Vayne

>W damage increased late. W - Silver Bolts MAXIMUM HEALTH DAMAGE 4/6/8/10/12% target's maximum health ⇒ 4/6.5/9/11.5/14% target's maximum health

Champs not weak, doesn't need buffs and you're buffing the worst designed part of her kit too.

15 Comments

Colton1474 votes

Vayne is a very mechanically intensive and high skill ceiling champion.

She is trash right now and is badly in need of buffs to be made viable. 49% win rate: http://na.op.gg/champion/vayne/statistics/bot

She is as worse as Caitlyn Jinx Tristana Kalista Corki.

BestPudgeNA1 votes

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Vayne is a very mechanically intensive and high skill ceiling champion.

She is trash right now and is badly in need of buffs to be made viable. 49% win rate: http://na.op.gg/champion/vayne/statistics/bot

She is as worse as Caitlyn Jinx Tristana Kalista Corki.

Trash champs don't get 11% pick rate in high elo. That's just not something that ever happens.

AnAggravatedPimp2 votes

What's her win rate in high elo though?

BestPudgeNA1 votes

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What's her win rate in high elo though?

Doesn't matter. Win rates are very misleading.

Zone of Endless4 votes

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Doesn't matter. Win rates are very misleading.

so how does pick rate have anything to do with buffing a champ or not?

BestPudgeNA1 votes

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so how does pick rate have anything to do with buffing a champ or not?

Because one of the main reason people pick champs, especially at high elo is because of their overall power.

Zone of Endless2 votes

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Because one of the main reason people pick champs, especially at high elo is because of their overall power.

not because they're fun to play or anything?

AnAggravatedPimp3 votes

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Doesn't matter. Win rates are very misleading.

So are pick rates. So are ban rates. They're all misleading in a vacuum which is why they're used together to get a good idea of a champions balance. For example, if a champion has an amazing win rate but an low pick rate then they are probably niche picked. However a champ with a good pick rate but a poor winrate is picked often for perceived strength, when in reality the champ is just weak.

Warlord Rhinark3 votes

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Doesn't matter. Win rates are very misleading.

Win rates are misleading?

You're the one basing buffs/nerfs purely on pick rate.

BestPudgeNA1 votes

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Win rates are misleading?

You're the one basing buffs/nerfs purely on pick rate.

No, i'm not going purely off pickrate. I just know never in the history of any moba has a champ that not brand new had over 10% of a pick rate and been weak. It's just not something that even comes close to happening in

KVbqbFsC8e2 votes

I don't understand that buff. Vayne already does a ton of damage lategame. The last thing we need is even more true damage.

TekkenPlayer1 votes

I get it, we should do nothing to thresh who has a good pockrate and got the shaft for several patches too.

Lucian Waifu1 votes

As someone who has been in high elo, people pick champs based off of how good they are in the current meta. Right now games are ending too fast for vayne to get to the late game she needs to be effective. Buffing her early silver bolt damage helps her get there faster to fit in line with the faster games. If it was me I would buff her early game damage a bit and keep her late game the same or a bit weaker, 12%>11%, but that's just me.

saltran1 votes

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Subject 51 votes

Vayne Is a really disgusting champion but fortunately this buff hits only her mid and late game. If she can survive all of the other things going on in the game it should be rewarded highly.

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That isn't to say that a fed Vayne is an absolute cancer to deal with.

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