Wait wait wair Riot thinks Akali needs buffs?

BestPudgeNA··46 votes·12,109 views

Riot trying to see if Akali can hit 100% ban rate, interesting way to delete a champ i guess

Akali

Base AD increased from 62.4 to 65
Base Armor increased from 23 to 28
Base HP increased from 550 to 630
AD per level increased from 3.3 to 4

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

INB4 some Akali main or bronze player says but but her solo Q win rate

36 Comments

Ozzie Storm39 votes

NO of course not are you out of your mind? She's getting buffs because she's getting a new Prestige K/DA Akali skin.

BestPudgeNA14 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ozzie Storm,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dhppr8IY,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-19T23:33:04.085+0000)

NO of course not are you out of your mind? She's getting buffs because she's getting a new Prestige K/DA Akali skin.

Good point forgot about that!

Plus0NE2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ozzie Storm,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dhppr8IY,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-19T23:33:04.085+0000)

NO of course not are you out of your mind? She's getting buffs because she's getting a new Prestige K/DA Akali skin.

its kinda sad the fact that riot puts new skins to popular champs and the other who are not "popular" rarely get a skin, idk, what about xerath for example

Ozzie Storm1 votes

i agree with you, however i understand why they do this since it's a company...etc. Hwever the example you gave is abit misplaced simply because Xerath doesn't have much going on to begin with. I can see a Dark Star and Winter wonder skin themed skins to him but other than that not alot can be done, they already have akins in so many colors on him. The same goes for othe simple power designed champions.

ImTheDotMan9 votes

They're giving her an entire Doran's worth of base HP? WTF Riot...

Spice and Wolf7 votes

These buffs are for nexus blitz only

TheSnowyLeopard6 votes

Her winrate is low. You cant just say an argument is invalid if you dont like it.

Its still a fucking argument even if you acknowledge it

floo2 votes

These buffs are nexus blitz only. But also, it's not all about winrate. Counterplay and how it feels to play against a champ are also important factors. Her winratr is low in general bc so many people first try her and lose.

TheSnowyLeopard1 votes

i didnt say it was all about win rate, all i said was you cant ignore an argument just beacause you dont like it

floo1 votes

That's why I provided an answer to why the argument isn't of a lot of meaning.

TheSnowyLeopard1 votes

Well the first try and lose applies to all champions, not specifically akali, and if it applies to all champs, then you dont factor it in as it doesnt change any part of the equation

floo1 votes

Akali has been released not so long ago. You'll be more likely to find someone who first-times Akali than say Mundo. When people learn how to play a champ properly, they get a more steady winrate, so it evens out at (preferably) 50%. If older champs had a lower winrate, they'd be more likely to receive some extra power, if they aren't nerfed for the sake of pro play or being Zoe. Also they already messed up with rash buffs like Aatrox and Kai'sa.

Neptunia xoxo2 votes

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TheSnowyLeopard1 votes

You disagree with me so you want my voice silenced? Thats pretty arrogant.

Neptunia xoxo3 votes

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You disagree with me so you want my voice silenced? Thats pretty arrogant.

You made me lose 50 IQ. good job bro

TheSnowyLeopard2 votes

Thank you, you gotta spare the last 2 points wisely, you might lose them.

Dracocrash1 votes

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Her winrate is low. You cant just say an argument is invalid if you dont like it.

Its still a fucking argument even if you acknowledge it

It's not an argument though. It's a fact.

Sure, I personally don't think akali is broken, or even OP. But her kit is so DISGUSTINGLY designed it feels like garbage to play against. I don't care if she has a shitty win rate, as long as her banrate is the highest out of any champion in the game, buffing her won't help. All it will do is make players more likely to ban her, and fuck over people who actually want to play Akali.

She needs a fundamental design change, and as long as her kit is how it currently is, shes better of sitting in the dumpster waiting for the Ryze treatment.

TLDR: Her winrate is irrelevant as long as her ban rate is the highest.

TheSnowyLeopard1 votes

Facts can be used as arguments. Since when did one cancel out the other?

Dracocrash1 votes

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Facts can be used as arguments. Since when did one cancel out the other?

You are right, they don't cancel out each other, I shouldn't have phrased my first sentence that way. But just because something is a fact, doesn't automatically qualify it to be used in an argument.

To reiterate, the fact that Akali's win rate is low doesn't matter because her ban rate is the highest in the game right now. Which is why it cannot be used in this argument.

TheSnowyLeopard1 votes

I almost permanently ban vayne, she is not overpowered or unfair.

Ban rates are based on community opinions. The community thinks akali is broken, therefore the high ban rate. The fact that she has a high ban rate and STILL has a negative winrate means that whenever she does get through, she loses most of the time.

If she was broken, whenever she got through, she wpuld have a positive winrate not a negative winrate.

Ban rates do not represent how good a champion is, while a win rate is by definition, showing how good thwy are.

Ban rates do not matter

Dracocrash1 votes

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I almost permanently ban vayne, she is not overpowered or unfair.

Ban rates are based on community opinions. The community thinks akali is broken, therefore the high ban rate. The fact that she has a high ban rate and STILL has a negative winrate means that whenever she does get through, she loses most of the time.

If she was broken, whenever she got through, she wpuld have a positive winrate not a negative winrate.

Ban rates do not represent how good a champion is, while a win rate is by definition, showing how good thwy are.

Ban rates do not matter

all of your concerns are answered in my OG reply to you

Sure, I personally don't think akali is broken, or even OP. But her kit is so DISGUSTINGLY designed it feels like garbage to play against. I don't care if she has a shitty win rate, as long as her banrate is the highest out of any champion in the game, buffing her won't help. All it will do is make players more likely to ban her, and fuck over people who actually want to play Akali. She needs a fundamental design change, and as long as her kit is how it currently is, shes better of sitting in the dumpster waiting for the Ryze treatment.

TheSnowyLeopard1 votes

Sigh. Youve missed my point by thinking I missed yours.

Was worth a shot, sorry it didnt work out.

Tobykachu3 votes

I think these are buffs just for Nexus Blitz.

Infernape2 votes

At least it isn't ability buffs. I'd rather them look at her base stats over buffing her kit directly.

Imo her kit does need a rebalancing

Prestige AkaIi2 votes

Where are you seeing these buffs?

Weiss Guertena9 votes

They were an error and subsequently removed. Good thing they were so fast, 20 minutes longer and the boards would have crashed due to all the complaints.

BestPudgeNA3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Weiss Guertena,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dhppr8IY,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-11-19T23:57:47.792+0000)

They were an error and subsequently removed. Good thing they were so fast, 20 minutes longer and the boards would have crashed due to all the complaints.

Apparently this is half true, they weren't meant for all modes but they were intended for Nexus blitz only.

Hammermancer2 votes

I say buff her, I wanna see them akali's squeal when they get smacked

Somebody Love Me2 votes

I do think she could use more base armor. Giving her that could at least give her room for a shroud nerf because 23 armor is kinda hard garbo

Smartness Immune1 votes

{quoted}

Riot trying to see if Akali can hit 100% ban rate, interesting way to delete a champ i guess

Akali

Base AD increased from 62.4 to 65
Base Armor increased from 23 to 28
Base HP increased from 550 to 630
AD per level increased from 3.3 to 4

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

INB4 some Akali main or bronze player says but but her solo Q win rate

I belive these are for the Clash gamemode, i've seen a post, complaining about Zed buffs , mainly stat buffs, just like these, and a rioter came up and said "These are meant for Clash Changes, they got mixed up with the normal ones"

pix3lbandit1 votes

*Nexus blitz

Summonah123691 votes

Quick! Nerf her before NB3 makes a new clickbait video making it look like this buff made her OP!

The Trent1 votes

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BestPudgeNA1 votes

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I posted this before this was know. Also Akali doesn't need buffs in any game mode IMO, just a broken champ

Saianna1 votes

Those aren't minor buffs either lol

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