So what's the difference between titanic hydra and atmogs

Derfel··2 votes·927 views

It's pretty much the same terrible design philosophy that got atmogs nerfed, letting tanks gain damage by building tank but yet here we are again in the cycle of sadness where tanks get more and more damage by building more and more tank. You wanna talk about stale build paths for ADCs when this is literally every build for every AD champ in the game that's not an ADC: hydra -> cleaver -> ravenous (literally free change to titanic cause fuck having to make decisions and shit) -> deadmans -> visage with one item leeway (if you're the jungler it's the jungle item). Where's the choice.

Btw RoA is still OP nerfing Karthus didn't do anything about it.

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Hello I am Bird2 votes

It's Atma's... Not Atmogs.

Also, Titanic is interchangable with Ravenous, making it even more overpowered. You can just buy Ravenous, and once it is more efficient to get Titanic, you can buy it for 0 gold.

disregardable2 votes

Atmogs was Atma's Impaler+Warmogs. The items were used in tandem to create a devastating effect. It was the definition of an era of League's history.

Hello I am Bird1 votes

My bad. Thanks for informing me c:

Critmaster Garen2 votes

so if its not ok for bruisers to get damage by building defense. why is it ok for carries to get tanky by building offense?

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adc have the strongest possible defensive stat on the strongest offensive item right now. even tanks dont get access to % damage reduction items.

and the % damage reduction of course synergizes with the bloodthirster shield.

by the way the reason atmas was officially removed was because it was a noob trap after all its nerfs, and its stat combination with crit in there which made it nieche for only 2 or 3 champions.

the reason it was nerfed was because of the midgame powerspike it caused due to its scaling off base health. it wasnt just good for fighters. stat wise an atmas rush was already good for carries who trade with other physicald damage dealers like other adc.

lategame there was never anything wrong with atmas. but the midgame powerspike in combination with mallet or the old warmorgs (which granted 1350 hp fully stacked) was why the item got nerfed.

titanic hydra also works diffently in that it doesnt grant a direct ad bonus, but on hit damage which doesnt increase ability damage or is subject to critical strikes.

if youre stacking a lot of health to get the on hit bonus up, youre not stacking a lot of attack speed to synergize with it. while atmas + health stacking did increase damage on ad scaling abilities.

and finally, anti health items and kits didnt exist back then or werent nearly as strong. giant slayer, bork, liandries and all those champions with % health damage all were introduced after the atmorgs phase. if they existed back then, the game might have looked different.

Jbels2 votes

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so if its not ok for bruisers to get damage by building defense. why is it ok for carries to get tanky by building offense?

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adc have the strongest possible defensive stat on the strongest offensive item right now. even tanks dont get access to % damage reduction items.

and the % damage reduction of course synergizes with the bloodthirster shield.

Yeah, I never understood how people could bitch that tanks get to do damage and be tanky while ADCs get to build defensively too item 3812

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