Karma is way too strong right now.

iisabrina·Jun 13, 2016·5 votes·1,387 views

her cool downs are ridiculous, her damage is very high, even early game, and her late game shields are fucking nuts. Nerf her.

17 Comments

Vistha KaiJun 13, 20162 votes

One, her winrate is crap for both support and mid. Two, while she's decent damage dealer at bot, she's one of the worst mid laners when to comes to damage. Three, her damage is hard to deal at every point of the game. Four, she lost a damage spell.

BeeCuzJun 13, 20161 votes

Clearly a Karma main.

iisabrinaJun 13, 20161 votes

Im not, lol I was playing donger today, I did alright (5/6/4 with lots of farm) considering our riven fed yasuo 1/17, they had yi, yasuo, lux, cait, and karma.

But I still think they should nerf her shield, she has movement speed, slow, stun, damage, IDK what is missing in her kit, shes really strong.

SilverSquidJun 13, 20162 votes

You forgot about the selfheal. I assume you find that OP too.

While I am sick of all the mindless Karma buffs, she is still performing averagely. Her RQ just looks like a lot of damage, because it's essentially two damagespells hitting at once. Her damage averages are underwhelming, especially when you consider, that she gets to poke a lot.

Learn her kit before you start complaining about what is strong and what isn't Don't stand on the max range of her RQ and stop calling her root a stun...

FlahertyJun 13, 20162 votes

Why would anyone complain about how strong their main is?

iisabrinaJun 13, 20161 votes

I think hes trolling, I am pretty sure I dont even own Karma LOL

NhifuJun 13, 20161 votes

They won't be nerfing karma, because we need big shields in this tank meta to protect the squishies

Lmao Get MoonedJun 13, 20161 votes

this is completely true, i got one shot by a karma q that did 2000 damage. She wasnt even building full ap

iisabrinaJun 13, 20161 votes

yeah lol todays karma just had frost queen and was doing like 500 damage.

FlahertyJun 13, 20166 votes

In order for Karma to do 2000 damage with one Q she would need 810 AP, and that's if she uses her Mantra'd Q and that person gets hit with the initial damage and the delayed damage AND they have 0 magic resist. I smell some bullshit.

blfUvZ8YbuJun 13, 20161 votes

Yes Karma is strong but she isn't op.

But we know Riot will nerf her because competitive.

iisabrinaJun 13, 20161 votes

I dont own her, but what ever spell lands enchanted circle, does alot of splash damage.

MisterShamelessJun 15, 20161 votes

I would suggest that you at least look into the champions you have trouble against. Even with all the things Karma could do, she lacks several things: Late game damage, wave clearing at early/mid game, hard cc, and relays on team mates in team fights. The best option would be to counter her (if she is top or mid) is a champ that can clear waves easily like Heimerdinger , Yasuo , Graves , Malphite , Malzahar and follows into ganking another lane.

I hate when someone goes Heimerdinger + item 3060 + item 3512 as their first two items. Its a nightmare dealing with that much split pushing power as Karma . I'm a Karma main and as I've mentioned at the start of my post, look into champions you have trouble dealing with because from what I read from your replies in this thread, you still don't know much about Karma.

iisabrinaJun 15, 20161 votes

Im curious, to know why banner of command as opposed to rod of ages? I get zyrots but the other one?

MisterShamelessJun 15, 20161 votes

Heim example:

Karma usually builds heavily on AP which leaves her to relay on auto attacking the cannon minion. Empowered minions aren't effected by AP. The empowered cannon minion on top of the Heim's turrets result in your lane getting pushed in straight into your tower and forces Karma to use up her mana to try and stop to push to save tower. This opens Karma to ganks with empowered minion/voidlings often keeping the tower distracted and leaving her to use summoners to try to survive the ganks. Karma wont be able to properly farm til mid-game where Heim will most likely be laning somewhere else.

Those two items can go well with the few other champions I mentioned.

VanjieJun 13, 20161 votes

As a Karma main I have to agree. Instead of addressing the problems with her kit and identity, Riot is buffing her numbers. Karma has received the most number buffs to a kit than any other champion. Riot is not addressing problems with her kit, but is instead increasing the amount of damage on her Q and how much strength her shields have. Riot is not addressing the fact that she has no identity, a kit that takes elements from other champions, a passive that is mad useless with CD, a rushed and incomplete VU, a boring and outdated lore, and complete lack of care for this champion.

What Riot should be doing is fixing the problems with her kit and balancing around that. If they nerf the buffs they gave to her, she is going to be in the same spot she was three years ago. They buffed her for the wrong reasons without fixing the mess they made her into. Riot doesn't understand this and it has been said to them for almost 3 years now.

DedriusJun 13, 20161 votes

I do think karma is really strong right now, she is similar to zyra in the sense that she does massive amounts of damage while also having a lot of utility. I'm guessing she will get some nerfs in the near future especially with her seeing play in professional.