Why can enemies not see Ekko's W but can see Bard's R?

bard makes movement, noises and shit too bruh your points are invalid.

lol that argument doesn't take into account players at all. By that logic, thresh and Anirva should never land their skill shots either. It's not easy to predict if the "PLAYER" is unpredictable. the cast range is huge, so it's easy to cast it from outside of the enemy vision, and you don't cast it where you are, or where the enemy is, you cast it where you will push them, by combining it with minion waves, turret aggro, or even Q, you can push the enemy into it. It won't work every time, but that's what skills shots are about (especially those slow ones) it's about predicting the enemy, but also about manipulating them into going where you want them too. Combining it with last hitting for cannon minions is one of the easiest, but your timing and follow up needs to be pretty perfect.

For the OP. I think the cast range should probably be smaller, and the AOE visible a bit sooner. I think when you cast it, the "telegraphed" image appears behind you every time, if it always appeared near the end zone, at least it'd be a bit easier to predict where it was aimed. right now it's like a game of chicken. Did he place it on him thinking I'd engage, did he place it on me thinking I wouldn't notice, did he place it behind me thinking I'd retreat. If you don't predict correctly it is very hard to avoid, so the real pressure is on the aiming, dodging part is not easy, if people are finding it easy, it's because the Ekko is bad at aiming

Hes comparing ekko's W to bard's R not ekkos R