@Lee SIn Defenders: Name one good reason why Lee Sin needs the ability to dash to wards!

So that they dont have to aim their only skillshot when going for a gank Kappa123 xd

I upvoted you because I agree with your premise, so don't hate me.

This is a TERRIBLE way to phrase this argument. What's much, much more important are all the reasons why he should have it taken away. Even as a steadfast proponent of the "stop the ward hopping, stop the madness," movement, I can think of good reasons why Lee should have this.

1. He's currently balanced around it. You may hate it, but he isn't crazy OP.
2. It's a great point of mastery for the champion. He has to manage his wards well to be able to use this ability when it counts, and there IS some mechanical skill involved in pulling a good ward hop move off.
3. Lee Sin's mobility is a hallmark of the champ. He can hop to enemies and allies even without this, so it fits with his current style and vibe.

There are more arguments, many of which are spin-offs of this one, but you get the idea. It doesn't help to ask questions like this, imo. The ward hop is frustrating to play against, and I think it's worth the cost involved to remove it. That's the most important thing to keep saying.

It encourages him to ward and he needs the vision.

Edit: Apparently I need to put a Kappa here to make it clear that it's a joke.

Not a Lee Sin defender most of the time, but today I guess I am.

I think it is mostly for the use of his ult. Let's compare it to Alistar's Headbutt, an ability with similar functionality. I am going to ignore the Pulverize-Headbutt combo for now since Lee doesn't have a comparable move involving his ult and it allows us to compare the abilities more effectively in the terms of how it relates to their mobility and CC. I will also ignore flash tricks for this since those aren't intrinsic to the kits and both have access to them equally.

Alistar can almost only use Headbutt defensively since it doesn't actually close the gap between him and his target. The exceptions to defensive use are hitting them into a wall or using a flanking maneuver to get around behind the enemy team (I don't count kicking a tank into the enemy team since that is primarily a peel thing). While Lee Sin could do both of these things without his ward hop, it is substantially harder for him to do so than it is for Alistar.

For the first case it is about the short term relative mobility, as in the relation of mobility between the aggressor and the victim. For both Alistar and Lee the only way they could control which side of an opponent they are on is by walking around them. While Lee is faster than Alistar, Alistar has an AoE hard CC that makes it impossible for the enemy to counter-maneuver. All Lee has is a decaying slow, which makes him unable to handle other mobile champions and makes it difficult to position around the enemy in a short time frame since they are still moving, albeit slowly.

The second case is more complicated because the mechanics are a little more messy. Lee Sin has longer range and a greater reward for pulling this off, but Alistar is more reliable. Lee has to hit a Q on the correct target and then go in and ult (assuming the enemy wouldn't let him walk up to their back line), but while doing this there is substantially more time to react than when Alistar does it. As soon as the Q hits the enemy should be aware of what Lee is trying to do, and if they are on top of things, they should then have a decent chance to stop him from doing it. Even if he pulls off the move, he is sacrificing himself for this and is likely dead almost immediately. Lee might build tank, but he usually needs a damage item or two to snowball his early game and even tanks can get shredded if they jump into an enemy team by themselves with no hard CC. Lee won't be able to dash to an ally to get out because the range on that just isn't that high, unless an ally is going in at the same time Lee is pulling his stunt. Alistar can survive doing this because he is ridiculously tanky and will then continue to contribute to the fight.

You might think, so what? What if Lee can't use his ult for offense? The thing is, Lee is an offensive champion. His only defensive tools he currently has in his kit are his ult, his W and Cripple. If you got rid of his offensive uses of his ult he is relegated to sit next to his carries to peel with his ult and provide a shield to them. He couldn't be an effective offense champion in the late game without the ward hop.

I don't like removing entire play styles from the game and Lee's current pattern of late game play is unique. While I am not a fan of Lee Sin in any stage of the game, I think that such a change would significantly change him to the point that he is not really the same champion anymore. As someone who played AD Sion, Mordekaiser and jungle Malzahar, I do not believe that effectively removing a champion/play style is a desirable outcome in all but the most offensive of cases.

TL;DR/Summary: Without his ward hop, Lee Sin's ult becomes very difficult to use as an offensive tool. This relegates Lee Sin to being a defensive champion later in the game, which changes the identity of the champion to the point of removal of the previous play style. Removing a play style is generally bad.

Word of advice: Dont ask a question, then downvote legitimate answers.

Name One good reason why X champion should have X ability: ------

Is kind of a stupid question to ask; He has the ability because it: 1: Synergizes with his kit really well 2: It makes for awesome Lee Sin insec plays, which feel fantastic. 3: Gives him mobility for escapes (He's a diver, he goes, and he bails) 4: It just goes along with his gameplay of being a mobile diver.

He has it cause it works well with his kit, makes for cools plays, and is a fun ability to use.

Thats why any champion has any of their abilitys, because it works well with their kit, it makes sense in their kit, and its fun to use.

You can't just name X reason for having X ability, there are many, Riot when making champions (At least now, Lee Sin has aged MUCH better then every single other champion of his time), doesn't just go okay "Lets put X, X, X, and X into this kit", not they go "Lets put X in cause, works well with X, which makes X even better".

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Because removing it would totally break him. He's balanced around it. Keep in mind that he doesn't get a shield and the cooldown is DOUBLED if he uses W to ward hop.

Personally am fine with it, what I am not fine with is him being so disgustingly overpowered early game with his insta kills while also having insane utility on top of that.

He really just needs his numbers toned down and given more sustain damage in replace for his 100 to 0 burst so I don't want to shoot myself the first 20-30 minutes of the game.

I feel like ward hopping is a neat mechanic though, personally. Though it's kinda insane that he has ward hopping and his Q to get around AND a insanely low cooldown ult to knock people away making him the safest jungle in the game.

its unique and cool

Not a Lee Sin defender myself, but let's see at the last time a champion lost the ability to ward-jump.

Yeaaaah. Let's leave Lee's ward-jump as is.

I think a better discussion would to list why he shouldn't have it, and then we spiral the conversation down to the Ice Cream shop.

Subtle way from Riot to force the most jerk playerbase to ward around?

because else it would lower his skill cap and make him even more brainless