Regarding Shens rework. Opinion regarding why hes in a bad spot

Defended··2 votes·332 views

Something i've noticed is that Shen does not have a weak early game. He has a GREAT early game. I usually don't lose lane on shen and if i do it's not bad at all. Maybe 0-2 at most?

What I did notice is that his kit falls off extremely fast.

Today against a Lee sin He was literally Ignoring my Q attacks. I feel as if without his Taunt Shen just becomes this useless Ult bot. Yes his Ult is great but idk his kit feels meh now. I love the whole concept but squishies should NOT be able to ignore a tanks autos. If i tried the same with naut id be soloing anyone.

This WOULD be fine yeah, Him not having damage as a tank Even with tit hydra? Yeah i understand thats fine.

But here is another problem that conflicts with the previous one.

He gets kited way too easy.. Anyone with an Iceborn gauntlet makes it so Shen literally becomes useless. Ezreal for example. You eat One Q-W-E after iceborn and thats it, You are not ever catching him. Yes thats the point of the item but anyone with a slow makes it hard.

You cannot Q the 3 procs on someone unless they let you or are stunned..

Ok even if im wrong ( which i understand because this is just my opinion from playing him a shit ton )

Why does his Q and Ult scale off AP? When does shen ever build freaking AP? What the hell is a 5% max health for 3 hits after the 25 minute mark?

He needs to be seen as a real threat. There is no reason Poppy gets reworked and shes literally pick/ban And shen gets reworked yet nobody plays him because his flaws are obvious Even when im fighting a shen everyones going caster ADCs now his W late game is just cute. Best way i can put it.

Then he also has the problem of his horribly horribly energy consumption.. His W should not cost energy. But his E passive needs to be moved to his Q and recover more.

6 Comments

Looknook2 votes

All the items you build on Shen right now seem weird given his scalings. Like you build item 3748 and item 3053 which gives you AD even though all of his ratio's scale off of AP. You don't want items like item 3027, item 3110 or item 3025 all that much because they all give mana and Shen doesn't want mana. He also has an ability which blocks auto attacks and another which gives him percent health damage, so.... he is good into auto attacking tanks? Don't get me wrong he is really strong early game he just doesn't scale, at least in part because no items really favor what he wants. And if he messes up his combo at all he has no energy and won't contribute again for a good while. I am just someone who played old shen alot and am commenting on things i see with new shen.

Kledy McKledFace1 votes

I feel his q should do %max healt or even current caus it is, indeed, very bad the moment the enemy picks a healthy item

OurLestrade1 votes

The issue is you're not gonna be building into your Q, meaning you're basically stuck with a tiny percent health attack that'll be mostly ignored by tanks with so much as a Null-Magic Mantle. It's like the old Sion, where you essentially ignored entire sections of his kit and they were useless. He can out-duel super tanky immobile tanks with zero damage of their own, but otherwise he's pretty easy to ignore. Hell, late game there's practically zero reason to even try and get the enhanced Qs - You do the same damage factoring MR. Nothing's more depressing than landing a taunt on a squishy, yet doing zero damage to them with your Q afterwards :P

Defended1 votes

@Riot_Meddler Anything we can do about shen.?

Thund3r Ang3l1 votes

I agree, Shen biggest problem is.. He is a good duelist but he get kitted waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyy to easily and now imagine without the Alacrity boots -_- Ill have to run movement speed quint I guess from now...

Reaper Review1 votes

I still want to know why they gave Shen a sword to manipulate when they've said that Irelia doesn't fulfill her "telekinetic blades" fantasy.

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