I-frame gap closer that does half a squishies health
Dash that puts you infront of the enemy that does half a squishies health
% Health auto attack active on lower health high %
Ult that slows you by 60% is an AOE hard to miss and does half your health +
Builds zhonyas
2 Seconds later every skill off CD.
What..
Sahn Uzal31 votes''As human being with actual feelings. I use very strong words whenever someone picks Fizz on the enemy team''
ftfy
Surfer Ashe7 votesAs an ADC main, I have yet to have any problems with Fizz.
The few times he does get picked, I run Caitlyn, trap his Zhonyas, properly poke and set up siege.
Assassins are so bad at the moment (bar 2), and yet here is the QQ. Gotta farm dese upvotes.
Defended18 votes[{quoted}](name=Surfer Ashe,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5jrl8lw,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-05-24T17:15:46.028+0000)
As an ADC main, I have yet to have any problems with Fizz.
The few times he does get picked, I run Caitlyn, trap his Zhonyas, properly poke and set up siege.
Assassins are so bad at the moment (bar 2), and yet here is the QQ. Gotta farm dese upvotes.
me and about 99% of the boards dont believe you.
Surfer Ashe2 votesme and about 99% of the boards dont believe you.
Good thing 99% of the boards are silver retards and shouldn't have any balance input.
A simple op.gg search will back up I'm an ADC main. A further look at my match history will show me having little problems with any assassin, being Diana, Rengar or Fizz lately.
Wumachine1 votesI love it when people pull statistics out their asses
TacB VIPEREYE1 votesI have this instinct this is because you play ashe as a surfer and ult carrys.
AMI RIGHT?
Kitten of Evil1 votesWhy did Fizz Zhonyas in front of you and not after killing you with an R+WQE combo?
Defended1 votes[{quoted}](name=Kitten of Evil,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5jrl8lw,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2016-05-24T18:56:15.503+0000)
Why did Fizz Zhonyas in front of you and not after killing you with an R+WQE combo?
I wasent describing what happened I was telling you what he has in his kit.....
Kitten of Evil1 votesOh, I was responding to the ADC who said "I run Caitlyn, trap his Zhonyas, properly poke and set up siege", not to you.
Defended2 votes[{quoted}](name=Kitten of Evil,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5jrl8lw,comment-id=0000000100000000,timestamp=2016-05-24T20:44:23.876+0000)
Oh, I was responding to the ADC who said "I run Caitlyn, trap his Zhonyas, properly poke and set up siege", not to you.
Ah sorry. Im stupid haha.
Troy24262125 votes[{quoted}](name=Surfer Ashe,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5jrl8lw,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-05-24T17:15:46.028+0000)
As an ADC main, I have yet to have any problems with Fizz.
You've played against bad Fizzes.
AlwaysByMySide6 votes[{quoted}](name=Surfer Ashe,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5jrl8lw,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-05-24T17:15:46.028+0000)
Assassins are so bad at the moment (bar 2)
No they're not, and Fizz is definitely not a bad assassin right now.
Yvaelle7 votesFizz is a tank in the current meta. He goes full tank and his base damage is so high it doesn't even matter - still one shots.
Surfer Ashe1 votes[{quoted}](name=Memeglaive Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5jrl8lw,comment-id=00000004,timestamp=2016-05-24T20:50:32.564+0000)
No they're not, and Fizz is definitely not a bad assassin right now.
He's so bad that he's having more success with a tank build.
AP Assassin fizz is so hilarious weak if you even build one defensive item. But silver QQ, yo.
AlwaysByMySide2 votes[{quoted}](name=Surfer Ashe,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5jrl8lw,comment-id=000000040001,timestamp=2016-05-25T08:20:11.107+0000)
He's so bad that he's having more success with a tank build.
AP Assassin fizz is so hilarious weak if you even build one defensive item. But silver QQ, yo.
Hur dur, 51% win rate with a super high play rate is bad champion.
http://champion.gg/champion/Fizz/Middle
Also, I don't complain about Fizz. AP Fizz is fine, and the champions I play (bruisers, mostly) have very little to fear from him. But to say he's bad? You'd have to be truly stupid and uninformed to believe that.
Surfer Ashe2 votes[{quoted}](name=Memeglaive Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5jrl8lw,comment-id=0000000400010000,timestamp=2016-05-25T08:29:01.348+0000)
Hur dur, 51% win rate with a super high play rate is bad champion.
http://champion.gg/champion/Fizz/Middle
Also, I don't complain about Fizz. AP Fizz is fine, and the champions I play (bruisers, mostly) have very little to fear from him. But to say he's bad? You'd have to be truly stupid and uninformed to believe that.
11%, if that.
LMFAO, Lucian is riding 30-40% playrate but that's only because "he's fun xdddddddd"
Fuck off. You're only using stats when they only support your claim.
AlwaysByMySide2 votes[{quoted}](name=Surfer Ashe,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5jrl8lw,comment-id=00000004000100000000,timestamp=2016-05-25T10:08:13.738+0000)
11%, if that.
Fourth highest for a mid laner, yes.
LMFAO, Lucian is riding 30-40% playrate but that's only because "he's fun xdddddddd"
Please show me where I've said that. =)
Fuck off. You're only using stats when they only support your claim.
You're being incredibly stupid. I haven't said anything about Lucian. And why would I? This thread isn't about him. I certainly wouldn't say a champion who is doing so well with such a high play rate is weak, like you stupidly tried to do.
Give it up kid.
Surfer Ashe2 votes[{quoted}](name=Memeglaive Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5jrl8lw,comment-id=000000040001000000000000,timestamp=2016-05-25T10:26:51.065+0000)
Fourth highest for a mid laner, yes.
Please show me where I've said that. =)
You're being incredibly stupid. I haven't said anything about Lucian. And why would I? This thread isn't about him. I certainly wouldn't say a champion who is doing so well with such a high play rate is weak, like you stupidly tried to do.
Give it up kid.
I didn't say you said that, that's the board's consensus that Lucian is okay because he has a 51%+ WR and an astronomical pick rate. But it's not okay for fizz to have similar results? Fuck off with your bullshit mate.
Come back with some real evidence or stop quoting me fucktard.
AlwaysByMySide2 votes[{quoted}](name=Surfer Ashe,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5jrl8lw,comment-id=0000000400010000000000000000,timestamp=2016-05-25T11:01:15.609+0000)
I didn't say you said that, that's the board's consensus that Lucian is okay because he has a 51%+ WR and an astronomical pick rate. But it's not okay for fizz to have similar results? Fuck off with your bullshit mate.
Come back with some real evidence or stop quoting me fucktard.
You said "You're only using stats when they only support your claim".
Based on what my uneducated, under-developed friend? What exactly were you trying to accuse me of? What relevance did Lucian have in your discussion with me?
I get the impression that you're still in school, so let our interactions be a learning experience. Understand that you are ignorant of the world at large, and that there will always be someone much smarter than you are.
I am okay with Fizz's current state, I was merely bringing forth evidence that he is not "bad" like you stupidly claimed. Were someone to try to argue Lucian was bad and I saw the post I would do the same.
Once more, give it up kid. You're way out of your depth.
Troll for Trump1 votesThe Boards has already complained about Lucian, and Riot's nerfing him on PBE.
ExecutorDill1 votes[{quoted}](name=Surfer Ashe,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5jrl8lw,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-05-24T17:15:46.028+0000)
As an ADC main, I have yet to have any problems with Fizz.
The few times he does get picked, I run Caitlyn, trap his Zhonyas, properly poke and set up siege.
Assassins are so bad at the moment (bar 2), and yet here is the QQ. Gotta farm dese upvotes.
Lol.... Sounds like a Fizz main trying to justify his current position...
Surfer Ashe3 votesLol.... Sounds like a Fizz main trying to justify his current position...
"Surfer Ashe" 80% of my games are ADCs. The 2% played Fizz and every time lost the game or got carried.
But yeah, I'm a fizz main.
Retard.
ExecutorDill1 votes[{quoted}](name=Surfer Ashe,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5jrl8lw,comment-id=000000050000,timestamp=2016-05-25T08:13:56.933+0000)
"Surfer Ashe" 80% of my games are ADCs. The 2% played Fizz and every time lost the game or got carried.
But yeah, I'm a fizz main.
Retard.
Lmao... whatever you say ADC... I know I smelt something "Fishy"... See what I did there xD Fizz is broken... It took me a lot of games to get good with Yas and Zed... The highest I did with Zed is like 26/2 this season and I honestly didn't have to die those 2 times it's the urge to finish my Penta baited me. People like Fizz, Riven and Akali go +10 kills with zero deaths in every game I see they are picked.... if that's balanced I will leave this game for the second time and return to Warframe until things make sense.
JedenVojak4 votesComing from someone who relies on high sustained auto-targeted damage which is manaless and heals you.
Yeah you sure got the short end of that stick buddy; melees should all just auto die to you.
Athenes Lulu2 votesFind someone to hide behind.
A singled out ADC is pretty much asking for your death wish to any given enemy assassin.
Pika Fox2 votesI mean.... hes an assassin, and youre an ADC. You arent supposed to have many options dealing with him other than positioning. Your team is supposed to peel for you and youre supposed to ward so you dont get blind sided.
Mazariamonti1 votesGood thing cleanse doesn't remove fizz ult anymore. He was 'really' suffering from all that qss use.
Anotherherolost1 votesHe'll be reworked soon, he's had the same kit forever.
Hollowchazz1 votesGet a 
and AP assassins wont be able to simply one shot burst you then escape.
Lasslow5 votesYeah he'll have to use his empowered auto attack once.
Zeliose1 votesGet a
You'd think that would work. but having 
and A full build quite literally one shot me with his q. he pressed q it procced thunderlords and 
he used playful trickster and the DoT from his w killed me before he reactivated it. I under stand assassins are suppose to burst. but they're suppose to use their whole kit to burst not a single ability that can't be missed and is only slightly less range than a lot of ranged champs AA range. I think they need to rework his kit to give him more proper combos that require any amount of skill at all to play. sense right now pressing q on an adc and then Eing away is not very skill reliant
Tribbles Foxfolk1 votesI-frame gap closer that does half a squishies health
Dash that puts you infront of the enemy that does half a squishies health
% Health auto attack active on lower health high %
Ult that slows you by 60% is an AOE hard to miss and does half your health +
Builds zhonyas
2 Seconds later every skill off CD.
What..
So, ADC main for real or FotS (Flavor of the Season) player trying to claim they're an "ADC main", just like people are "Taliyah mains" on release day?
Defended2 votes[{quoted}](name=Eevee Girl Alex,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5jrl8lw,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2016-05-25T00:54:09.424+0000)
So, ADC main for real or FotS (Flavor of the Season) player trying to claim they're an "ADC main", just like people are "Taliyah mains" on release day?
410k points on caitlyn. 220k Points on MF. 100k on Other adcs.
Been an adc main since i started playing 7months ago
Anyways what the hell does that have to do with the topic....
Lady Hammerlock1 votes[{quoted}](name=Eevee Girl Alex,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5jrl8lw,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2016-05-25T00:54:09.424+0000)
So, ADC main for real or FotS (Flavor of the Season) player trying to claim they're an "ADC main", just like people are "Taliyah mains" on release day?
S6 is the meta for ADC's? ha is that supposed to be a joke
Feathermane1 votesRather get jumped on by Fizz than killed by Malz's incidental damage while he's killing someone else.
ImmortalBloodCY1 votesAs a Mordekaiser with full shield i do this:
SLAP! SLAP! DEATH SLAP!
I sometimes build my Mordekaiser AD tank since his Q scales really strongly with AD :P
Nyhver1 votesbetter nerf zed tho
Imperial Japan1 votesSame for mid jg and top 😂 Going against a tank fizz top is annoying af where as mid fizz can screw your overhard and jg fizz counter jgls you 24/7
billxx1 votesHis e is four seconds where you can kill him. A lot of fizzes max it first, so they will use it for dmg. If you have any cc just wait for his e and you'll be fine. Also zhonyas has a long cooldown, which is what a lot of people were complaining about.
Linna Excel1 votesThis is why I hate laning against him when I play Ahri. Yes I know it's a 50/50 skill match-up, but he's annoying as crap to lane against and you really can't die at all to him.
Lady Hammerlock1 votesHis ults also a knock up
Chake14u1 votesYou won't live long enough for the ulti's CC to be useful...
Defended1 votes#nerf fizz 2016 pls
TacB VIPEREYE1 votesYou know whats fun? Seeing the same champions every single game with the exact same builds....Because everyone woke up one day a cheese genius cheered EUREKA!!!
Llanite1 votesI have the same feeling when you go Quinn, Graves or other adc top.
Doesn't mean anything.
MargaretThatcher1 votesi am adc main plat and i have 0 problem against ANY assassin. Other thing is that they are annoying. But sure,its easy to deal with them. If you are against a very feed assassin and you dont have a banshees or ga dont cry saying that you had "sterak or malmortius". That shit isnt defensive.
Do you want to win against a 20000/0 leblanc? Get a banshees, she cant enage. Extremely feed fizz? Ga, he has to use E to finish you if you have legs and dont eat his ult. Zed? Ga. Without ult he cant stay at shadow range to kill u again or he will be deleted by your team.
Yes, you have to rely in your team but how are you suposed to win if you don't rely on them? Also, picking is very important. If they have a Zed+Fizz in their team i wont pick a stupid cait or lucian. They have dashes but against those 2 won't matter. Go for sivir or ezreal. Assassins are made to be punished by team based plays.Don't expect a hug if you are in the same side of the fight than a fizz or zed. If they are on the right side of mid lane, you stay in the left side, behind your tanks.
If you want a very good anti assassin adc, go for sivir. Spellshield their main damage ability and then ult, let your team punish their mistake
Defended1 votesi am adc main plat and i have 0 problem against ANY assassin. Other thing is that they are annoying. But sure,its easy to deal with them. If you are against a very feed assassin and you dont have a banshees or ga dont cry saying that you had "sterak or malmortius". That shit isnt defensive.
Do you want to win against a 20000/0 leblanc? Get a banshees, she cant enage. Extremely feed fizz? Ga, he has to use E to finish you if you have legs and dont eat his ult. Zed? Ga. Without ult he cant stay at shadow range to kill u again or he will be deleted by your team.
Yes, you have to rely in your team but how are you suposed to win if you don't rely on them? Also, picking is very important. If they have a Zed+Fizz in their team i wont pick a stupid cait or lucian. They have dashes but against those 2 won't matter. Go for sivir or ezreal. Assassins are made to be punished by team based plays.Don't expect a hug if you are in the same side of the fight than a fizz or zed. If they are on the right side of mid lane, you stay in the left side, behind your tanks.
If you want a very good anti assassin adc, go for sivir. Spellshield their main damage ability and then ult, let your team punish their mistake
EUW must not have good players....
MargaretThatcher1 votesYou are telling me that EUW must not have good players? The one from the most greedy region that think they are better than any other? I should remember you how greedy were the NA teams and then got crushed by koreans?
You are a Gold 2 with 51% win ratio talking bullshit about players that are plat, diamond and even challengers? A fucking gold that cries about assassins when he builds 2 crit items and even yoummu on caitlyn while not caring about defensive stats. You can't build properly, the bad player its you. Just because another can deal with assassins doesnt mean the assassin that they got matched against is bad.
Maybe, and just MAYBE you are the one that sucks and not the assassin that is OP. You know what counters fizz? Lifesteal and a GA. You mainly run 2 crit items, without any lifesteal, scimitarra, sterak, ga or banshees when they have an assassin ahead.Do you prefer doing a bit of damage staying alive or doing 0 damage dead? Maybe EUW has a bit more of teamplay and care about their teammates than NA. Or maybe the NA adc fucking suck, i don't know. I try to help YOU and you tell me that EUW must not have good players due to them being able to deal with an assassin when you are mainly crying in this post about not being able to handle fizz?
I tried to help you talking you about itemization and ADCs. But well, WHO CARES.
Covert Ops Gnar1 votesBut my thread on him gets downvoted saying the same thing.