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Otter4Blue··1 votes·718 views

i know that farming is the most efficient way to get gold in the game. and i know that i suck at it. but every-time i try to find a guid they tell me jump into custom to for hours do learn this.

i like this game because it is not an rpg requiring me to super-refine mechanics to be decent, but i would like to the option that if you are not great at farming you can still be relevant. i know this might be stupid and i don't know if it should be done. however, i can attribute many of my issues in winning the game to farming. and at my level if you leave lane cause your opponent is freezing it to push mid or something you get condemned for it.

so i cant fix players but i would like an item that made farming easier. i dont think it should have any combat stats except attack speed. and i find static shiv too expensive for the purpose of farming only. i want such an item so that if you know you are bad in farming you can choose to place yourself in a hole for a bit in order to try to gain more gold through farming. and i dont mean bonus gold, i mean that the item will make it easier to last hit minions as opposed to one shooting them with IE when I'm adc or be screwed without.

i know this might be overpowered but i think that if it cost like 1000 gold you can have a choice about how well you farm. but it is just an idea to make the game more accessible to people who do not want to practice farming to the point they get 70% cs a min.

10 Comments

BerserkGoldfish1 votes

This, so much agreement, like not even necessarily AS, but an attack animation speed boost, bolts travel faster, swords swing faster, whatever.

this would be my suggestion

Magical crop scythe (because puns are funny dammit!)

cost 2000g (item 1043 +item 3093 + 100g)

+10AD +10% critical strike

Unique passive-reap the masses-your auto attacks deal 10% less damage to champions, but 15% more to minions.

Unique passive-Split second decision- Attack animations and auto attack projectile speeds are increased by 25%

tweak numbers and all, but something like this would be awesome, it would be an "im behind, so I need to farm" item, decreasing effectiveness in tradeoffs, but bonus damage to minions and a way to curb the "darn minion auto'd as I did and took the minion" that those of us with more than 30 ping often experience

also there may be a better place for this topic, like item discussion or something.

Otter4Blue1 votes

{quoted}

This, so much agreement, like not even necessarily AS, but an attack animation speed boost, bolts travel faster, swords swing faster, whatever.

this would be my suggestion

Magical crop scythe (because puns are funny dammit!)

cost 2000g (item 1043 +item 3093 + 100g)

+10AD +10% critical strike

Unique passive-reap the masses-your auto attacks deal 10% less damage to champions, but 15% more to minions.

Unique passive-Split second decision- Attack animations and auto attack projectile speeds are increased by 25%

tweak numbers and all, but something like this would be awesome, it would be an "im behind, so I need to farm" item, decreasing effectiveness in tradeoffs, but bonus damage to minions and a way to curb the "darn minion auto'd as I did and took the minion" that those of us with more than 30 ping often experience

also there may be a better place for this topic, like item discussion or something.

arent items part of gameplay though?

Ship 0F Ducks1 votes

if you don't like farming and just like fighting then try other game modes like dominion. summoner's rift is all about the war of attrition (basically being stronger than ur opponents)

if your opponent is freezing AND u can fight him easily, then put 2-3 wards down ur lane and push all the way to his tower (while getting all cs).

if you can't fight him because hes too strong and hes freezing, get some jungle camps near your side, try to group 5 and take dragon or a tower.

And remember that farming IS also a skill. If you want to be a good player, then you don't want to spend 1000g to farm cs that you should already be getting for free.

MasterYi op

Otter4Blue1 votes

i did not say i dont like farming, i said i would like a way to make farming easier for me at an expense of gold and combat effectiveness since when i fall behind i cannot farm because i nearly get the hit and the minion takes it, or a sudden crit stops it. im not asking for an item for pros. im asking for an item targeted at lower level players. an item that if you build in gold 3 plus you will lose because you did not get combat effectiveness.

do you understand where im coming from. i dont want to spend time i can play against people to just sit in a custom game practicing. im not trying to be a pro. im trying to have a way so that i dont have to spend hours practicing last hits in a myriad of circumstance. also other games modes are also farming dependent. in aram the person with the most farm before his first death generally has some advantages so wave clear is powerful, which is partially why anivia is so strong in aram she gets the farm. and dominion is not as strategical as SR.

i dont want an item that can be used or is effective to use when you have the skill to farm more than 60% of cs. which often is difficult in lower elo with tendancies to want to kill the opponent higher than it seems in higher elos.

Ship 0F Ducks1 votes

{quoted}

i did not say i dont like farming, i said i would like a way to make farming easier for me at an expense of gold and combat effectiveness since when i fall behind i cannot farm because i nearly get the hit and the minion takes it, or a sudden crit stops it. im not asking for an item for pros. im asking for an item targeted at lower level players. an item that if you build in gold 3 plus you will lose because you did not get combat effectiveness.

do you understand where im coming from. i dont want to spend time i can play against people to just sit in a custom game practicing. im not trying to be a pro. im trying to have a way so that i dont have to spend hours practicing last hits in a myriad of circumstance. also other games modes are also farming dependent. in aram the person with the most farm before his first death generally has some advantages so wave clear is powerful, which is partially why anivia is so strong in aram she gets the farm. and dominion is not as strategical as SR.

i dont want an item that can be used or is effective to use when you have the skill to farm more than 60% of cs. which often is difficult in lower elo with tendancies to want to kill the opponent higher than it seems in higher elos.

i SORT Of get it but not exactly because it'll cap players from getting better since it'll introduce really bad habbits (csing is a major part of league....it plays a major role in players counter picking when it comes to lane.....lane bullies vs team oriented champions etc.). ok, besides that.....some champions are designed to be great farmers (e.g sivir) , while others are terrible laners and farmers (e.g poppy) but if they do somehow get that gold without any effort, then its not going to be as balanced. If you remember at the beginning of season 4 when they introduced gold items for support, people only saw kill lanes , with this extra gold without farming gave people no reason to play support champions - champions that aren't item oriented since their spells provide utility. It basically lead to relic shield getting hot fixed and ancient coin getting nerfed next patch.

you dont need to spend hours alone to practice CS.....season 3 I mained AP nid always hated it and would miss alot of my CS. To overcome this I would have full flat damage runes, and start with dorins blade. from there you buy all regular ap stuff.

I only got good at farming when i picked up playing veigar (season 4- till RIP veigar rework). And in lane, i would farm alllllll my cs with auto attacks exclusively without any ad masteries or runes, and harass with Q anytime he tried to trade(basically never farm Q)

good luck dawg, you got this

Otter4Blue1 votes

never considered it that way. I'll try to experiment ty.

BerserkGoldfish1 votes

I don't think it would be bad to offer farm assist by way of items. If you look at the style stats I suggested it would be a huge drawback for anyone who already farms well to get, however it would be something someone who just wants to play safe and farm could get if theyre not the best at csing. I get that csing is part of the game, but why would it be such a bad thing to introduce low tier items? not everything has to be designed/meant for LCS players, since 99% of us will never be them.

Godhri1 votes

Honestly, it isn't that hard to do. It's just something you have to work at just like dodging skill shots, wave control, etc. Making an entirely new item just because people cannot farm effectively is a bit of an overreaction. Most people can't CS properly until Gold or even Plat or higher anyway.

Otter4Blue1 votes

Most people can't CS properly until Gold or even Plat or higher anyway.

66% of players are in silver or lower. which means that only 40% get rewards for being gold or higher.considering there are 3 non-competitive and 3 competitive, (competitive as losing rank due to inactivity), (master part of challenger). and rewards are given out at the top non competitive division. you see how a large amount of the player base from what you said will not be happy with the situation.

Godhri1 votes

That's because you have to LEARN how to do it. I don't understand why everyone wants a handicap for something you must learn.

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