the worse type of player in league

Otter4Blue··64 votes·4,134 views

im not saying this player im talking about, Player X (PX), is mechanically bad. or am i saying that his choices about where to go and when are bad.

he qued up as nasus in my ranked game. our mid syndra gave first blood and was not doing well. around 6 min he disconnects for a 1.5 min. he comes back and is instantly zoned out. he manages a kill as our bot lane is constantly exchanging kills and mid is obviously losing. jg losing too due to several lee sin counter ganks.

then at 10 mid bot get 2-0 for the third time or so in the game and he says we lost gg. so far fine. however, he then preceeds to go to the fountain and spends the next 5 min telling the team that we lost and we need to give up and surrender at 20. at 20 min we get a good fight our lucian gets a few kills and we are on our way back. nasus still in fountain, then decides to go top as to get xp for not being counted mia. the next teamfight is inourbase under a tower and we get close enough to winning that a nasus could have made the difference, he is of coarse top, then blue while two people take a nexsus turret un harassed.

we lost, mistakes were made, i made plenty. my mid made plenty, my bot made plenty. nasus however did not make some mistake that lost us that game. he made a choice. he chose for the team 15 min in that we lost. he chose we lost. if he would have said that he does not think we can win fine. but he stoped playing and stayed in the game harassing the rest of the team.

this PX is worse than a troll, feeder, or Wood 5.. this player took an active role to demoralize and undermine the team.

i would mute him, but i believe that muting people does not solve your problem. just makes you not notice it.

we lost because he chose that we lost for us. For that, a chat ban or a playing bad won't work. he won't understand what he did wrong, and will do it again. And that is my issue really. now we got rid of hate and prejudice for the most part, what about demoralizing your own team on purpose, what about stoping to play despite four people on your team continuing to do so. there is no punishment for that but there should be.

i would like to have a shout out to two other people of the team who did not vote to surrender twice but did their best anyway, that is what i expect from players, By The Way.

64 Comments

Only TurboInt20 votes

It really feels like people just quit too early or something goes wrong and they are so afraid that they are unwilling to take a risk that could put them back in the game.

Freljordan2 votes

My first season playing ranked I wondered why a lost a lot my first 20 games or so (I didn't play that much ranked that season bc I was new to it, like 50 games maybe?), then I realized that the majority of my losses were surrenders. After making the decision to not surrender unless it was really realllllly bad I began to win more than half my matches. I see this still today in many games I would have surrendered in before I end up winning!

Narasimha12 votes

Meh, theres infinitely worse players. You'll find out.

"So, you uh..you want to leave top lane yet Trynd?" "Nah man, I'm good. You gus keep them busy, I'll keep split pushing." "Well, its just that, you've died 6 times... and you're STILL not past their first tower..." "Dude, Teemo op. But its cool, I'll wreck him late game."

20 min later "OMG GG GUYS MY TEAM NEVER HELPED THEY JUST STAYED MID AND DID WHATEVER" "...-.-"

Spacesuit Spiff2 votes

At least it's a Trynd, not a Swain. Who dies 15 times but finally gets the inhib... and then keeps splitting top because "muh cs"

Freljordan3 votes

lol why is swain splitpushing in the first place? thats like splitpushing with vlad but with slightly worse waveclear

Spacesuit Spiff1 votes

Well it was provisionals, so par for the course really.

I think his logic was "I'm drawing them all top, do something" even when dragon isn't up, the lanes are all pushed toward us, and he teleported top while the rest of the team is healing after a fight. Yeah, no, all you did was die 1v4 and give them a free baron.

I Main Swain3 votes

no, that's not even close to being worse. at least he's trying to win the game, whereas nasus was just sitting afk and demoralizing the team.

Need Gold 4 Tent1 votes

We had a Tryndamere that started off 0/5/0 then ended up carrying his team with 19 kills (though similar deaths). He literally stayed top the whole game to give us a headache at some point. He'd just hit the turret while ulting, destroying it while suiciding. And he was hardly worth the <100 gold we got each time.

Not just that, while Teemo was grouping with us, the fker farmed up and suddenly transformed to this scary 1v3 capable monster. His 0/5/0 means nothing if he still has the cs to farm up a Shiv/IE/BoRK build. We eventually found that we needed 2 people to stop him (and the few mistakes we made sending one just fed him further).

There you get the dilemma. Stop the 4 of his team from taking objectives or stop him from taking inhib? All this trouble for a feeding 0/5 Trynd. He shouldn't give up so soon in your case

ABlueQuaker7 votes

Nasus really isn't a champion that you should give up as. It's the same deal with the likes of Jax, Malphite, etc. Anything that can scale, you play will scale. It's your one shot to win in an otherwise sh*tty game. You keep the side lanes shoved. You keep your jungle warded. You draw the game out as long as you can.

I've honestly had situations where I've told Vaynes and Lucians to get 3rd item Randuin's/Banshee's after BotRK and Greaves and just play it like Bruisers until they get some money flowing and the levels they need to scale. And then we end up winning because they've built situationally.

FluxBound5 votes

;n; and all he had to do was sit and farm. Rip in peace

WeFlyNoLie5 votes

You know what the worst part is? This doesn't get better as you move up.

I can say that since the beginning of this season I was placed in silver, I've since reached Platinum and the same nonsense happens in Platinum.

Almost every game I play in ranked now, one person dies to the lane opponent, one bad gank gives the enemy a triple kill, or one dragon is lost because we missed smite.

"GG" "im so done" "screw this (insert role or champion here)"

People give up after ONE unfavorable thing happens. Its pathetic, if you aren't even going to try, why did you bother to queue?

Konidias4 votes

This game encourages this sort of thing though. It teams you with potatoes more than half the time, and so you end up losing a lot of games, and then you get into a new game and it seems like you have potatoes for teammates again, and so you just want to throw your hands in the air and surrender 10 minutes into the game.

Sometimes your team is full of a-holes to the point where you really don't want to do anything that might let them win anyway. There are always two sides to the story, that's all I'm saying.

I doubt this was Nasus' first game of the day and he was all fresh and cheerful and ready to be a good teammate and go the distance. Dude probably had several awful games already.

SlimShadyStandUp1 votes

DUDE, I HAD 4 OUT 8 GAMES PROVISIONAL MY TEAM PLAYERS AFKED IN 3 GAMES IN A ROW.

I SHOULD HAVE QUIT BY THEN AND SHOULD HAVE STOPPED PLAYING FOR TODAY.

IT IS CLEARLY RIOTS SERVER FAULT AND FRUCKING RIOT WONT FRUCKING GIVE A DRAW FOR TEAMS OR PLAYERS AFFECTED MY THE FRUCKED UP SERVER.

THEY SHOULD HAVE A SYSTEM TO DETECT TO IF A PLAYER EXPERIENCES AFKING TEAMMATES FOR 3 OR MORE GAMES IN A ROW WHERE ONE (OR MORE) OF THE TEAM MATES AFKED WHILE THE ENEMY HAD ALL 5 PLAYERS.

THIS IS BULLSHIET.

FRUCK RIOT AND THEIR SERVERS. FRUCKING RIOT WON'T EVEN GIVE A FRUCKING DRAW.

SO FRUSTRATING. I LOST PURELY OUT OF AFKING PLAYERS. MY TEAM GAVE IN SO EASILY.

WastelandKittah2 votes

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DUDE, I HAD 4 OUT 8 GAMES PROVISIONAL MY TEAM PLAYERS AFKED IN 3 GAMES IN A ROW.

I SHOULD HAVE QUIT BY THEN AND SHOULD HAVE STOPPED PLAYING FOR TODAY.

IT IS CLEARLY RIOTS SERVER FAULT AND FRUCKING RIOT WONT FRUCKING GIVE A DRAW FOR TEAMS OR PLAYERS AFFECTED MY THE FRUCKED UP SERVER.

THEY SHOULD HAVE A SYSTEM TO DETECT TO IF A PLAYER EXPERIENCES AFKING TEAMMATES FOR 3 OR MORE GAMES IN A ROW WHERE ONE (OR MORE) OF THE TEAM MATES AFKED WHILE THE ENEMY HAD ALL 5 PLAYERS.

THIS IS BULLSHIET.

FRUCK RIOT AND THEIR SERVERS. FRUCKING RIOT WON'T EVEN GIVE A FRUCKING DRAW.

SO FRUSTRATING. I LOST PURELY OUT OF AFKING PLAYERS. MY TEAM GAVE IN SO EASILY.

your caps lock is stuck bro, come back when you have a logical argument that is composed of logic not mindless rage/cursing.

PalPlays3 votes

So much this! Ever since the Tribunal died, League has been so toxic! There IS NO PUNISHMENT for things like this, and the ragers know it.

Sáx Man3 votes

Trust me, when someone is spamming "GG we lost" the mute button does solve the problem, or at least part of it. Why? because this is a two-pronged problem.

First, you have the aspect of him going afk. There is not anything you can do to solve this, and trying to plead with this type of person only makes them feel more important; they're looking for the attention and you're giving it to them.

The second part is where the mute button comes in handy. You will no longer see the demoralizing messages that he's spamming, which have likely been causing the rest of the team to tilt. Furthermore, taking the time to type a reply to him, or even just thinking about the things he's saying, waste time that you could have been using to talk to the rest of your team and win.

People like this are a terrible part of the online community, and they really should have more strict penalties to deal with it, but by responding to them you're only wasting your own time.

Takeuchi 172 votes

worst*

WastelandKittah2 votes

Why does this have upvotes? this contrubutes ZERO to the community,Has ZERO to do with gameplay and balance,and in fact makes this place even MORE toxic. I'ts almost like this community WANTS to make itself look even worse.

Just LOOK at the comments on this,its a circlejerk. It's just whiny toxic players who seem to believe they are entitled to have everything,their way.

just going to brake down one of the comments for fun This is courtesy of Konidias who gave us this little gem

It teams you with potatoes more than half the time, and so you end up losing a lot of games,

I have a solution bro, stop blameing everyone else; and look at your own failures,your not the saint you seem to think you are. For a person who averages 4 games a day,playing one champ and ONLY one champ(i looked at your match history its all quinn all the time) you are getting AVERAGE KDA at best this wouldn't be such a problem if you actually played other champs,but seeing as you seem to use only quinn all the time,its pretty week.

In games you lost you often go 8 deaths 5 deaths,relativity average numbers leaning on high. This would also not be a problem. If not for the incredibly self absorbed statement you just made about being matched with "potatoes"(aka people you feel are lesser creatures,people you feel are less then you and not deserving of respect).

In fact in games you LOSE the other people on your team are often doing BETTER then YOU are Case study's below:

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1800812761/218759768?tab=overview

(you literately have the worst score on you team here) http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1800825382/218759768?tab=overview

(You are not doing much better then the worst player on your team here ) http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1800755351/218759768?tab=overview

(Your support I see is responsible for getting you most of those kills,ill admit Rakas deaths are high but her assists are just as high. She got you 6 kills for every death..oh right the mind set in this place is ASSITS NO COUNT LELELELELEL) http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1800057573/218759768?tab=overview

and now for games that you actually win..your also not the best player in these situations either.

(Your jungle is doing far better then you..inb4 he STOLE MAH KILZZZ LELELELELEL) http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1800961113/218759768?tab=overview

(Kats doing far better the you here,once again in b4 SHE STOLE TEH KILLZZZLLOLOLO) http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1800872511/218759768?tab=overview

The point i'm making Konidias is you need to stop saying everyone else is the problem your not the best player on your team despite thinking you are,these are just games from today and yesterday,and they are pretty telling considering the rest of your match history.

Konidias5 votes

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The point i'm making Konidias is you need to stop saying everyone else is the problem your not the best player on your team despite thinking you are,these are just games from today and yesterday,and they are pretty telling considering the rest of your match history.

Wow, you're one of those guys who goes through someone's match history and points out things... Neat.

Is KDA supposed to prove something? This isn't call of duty. Most of the matches you pointed out my team was so focused on getting kills that they let the enemy take objective after objective. I die a lot because I actually attempt to prevent the enemy from taking objectives while my team potatoes about. Don't sit there and think you can judge my games based on your GLIMPSE of my match history and KDA. That shows ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, and you are 100% POTATO for even thinking this way.

So yeah, you're one of those potatoes I'm talking about. "Herp derp, your score is worse so that means you can't complain about people playing like potatoes"

Thanks for trying to shame me with my match history though. You're a class act potato.

Konidias6 votes

{quoted}

Why does this have upvotes? this contrubutes ZERO to the community,Has ZERO to do with gameplay and balance,and in fact makes this place even MORE toxic. I'ts almost like this community WANTS to make itself look even worse.

Just LOOK at the comments on this,its a circlejerk. It's just whiny toxic players who seem to believe they are entitled to have everything,their way.

just going to brake down one of the comments for fun This is courtesy of Konidias who gave us this little gem

I have a solution bro, stop blameing everyone else; and look at your own failures,your not the saint you seem to think you are. For a person who averages 4 games a day,playing one champ and ONLY one champ(i looked at your match history its all quinn all the time) you are getting AVERAGE KDA at best this wouldn't be such a problem if you actually played other champs,but seeing as you seem to use only quinn all the time,its pretty week.

In games you lost you often go 8 deaths 5 deaths,relativity average numbers leaning on high. This would also not be a problem. If not for the incredibly self absorbed statement you just made about being matched with "potatoes"(aka people you feel are lesser creatures,people you feel are less then you and not deserving of respect).

In fact in games you LOSE the other people on your team are often doing BETTER then YOU are Case study's below:

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1800812761/218759768?tab=overview

(you literately have the worst score on you team here) http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1800825382/218759768?tab=overview

(You are not doing much better then the worst player on your team here ) http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1800755351/218759768?tab=overview

(Your support I see is responsible for getting you most of those kills,ill admit Rakas deaths are high but her assists are just as high. She got you 6 kills for every death..oh right the mind set in this place is ASSITS NO COUNT LELELELELEL) http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1800057573/218759768?tab=overview

and now for games that you actually win..your also not the best player in these situations either.

(Your jungle is doing far better then you..inb4 he STOLE MAH KILZZZ LELELELELEL) http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1800961113/218759768?tab=overview

(Kats doing far better the you here,once again in b4 SHE STOLE TEH KILLZZZLLOLOLO) http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1800872511/218759768?tab=overview

The point i'm making Konidias is you need to stop saying everyone else is the problem your not the best player on your team despite thinking you are,these are just games from today and yesterday,and they are pretty telling considering the rest of your match history.

Just for fun I want to point out why bringing up match history is stupid, other than the obvious KDA isn't everything:

Match 1: My team surrendered 4 votes to 1 (guess who didn't surrender) because the enemy team was tower diving us and my team was not coordinating to stop it. They literally all just gave up trying

Match 2: I had an awful game. I'm not going to lie

Match 3: Our Annie and Warwick kept getting caught out and killed late game. They cost us baron, dragon and then the nexus. We kept telling Warwick to stop running out and face checking but he kept doing it, and you really can't win a 3v5 team fight late game.

Match 4: My support got me most of the kills?!? Wth are you even talking about? I wasn't the ADC bud. Take more than 2 seconds to glance at my match history please. I got first blood in under 4 minutes in top lane. I then proceeded to kill Darius again, and ended up taking top tower at 10 minutes.

Match 5: Look at how involved I was with towers. Please dude. Stop looking at just KDA. I took like half the objectives during that game that lead us to a win.

Match 6: Herp derp more KDA talk. How about go look at the 31:30 minute mark where I split pushed down THREE TOWERS AND AN INHIB which ended up winning us the game later.

Sit down.

LegendaryLemur2 votes

{quoted} now we got rid of hate and prejudice for the most part

Keep dreamin', pal.

Gorgiolio2 votes

There is also the other side to this issue. I always get super mad when a match is 4-20. Our team continues to get dominated and there is literally NO chance of a comeback. But hey, let's not surrender :PPPPPPPPP. -_-

There are always a time when you can have a chance, however, there ARE games that really just are not winnable. To say there isn't really is just silly. I'd rather accept the loss as quickly as possible, review all my mistakes, use the experience and move on. However, when I get stuck in a game where not a single tower of the enemies is taken and we can't even enter our own jungle... for 30 minutes. I cri a little on the inside everytiem.

Konidias1 votes

{quoted}

There is also the other side to this issue. I always get super mad when a match is 4-20. Our team continues to get dominated and there is literally NO chance of a comeback. But hey, let's not surrender :PPPPPPPPP. -_-

There are always a time when you can have a chance, however, there ARE games that really just are not winnable. To say there isn't really is just silly. I'd rather accept the loss as quickly as possible, review all my mistakes, use the experience and move on. However, when I get stuck in a game where not a single tower of the enemies is taken and we can't even enter our own jungle... for 30 minutes. I cri a little on the inside everytiem.

Yeah I consider it time to surrender when we have literally no vision and the enemy has full map control. Like how are you supposed to come back from that? They can free farm, take dragon, take baron... your team can barely squeak out of base for fear of getting jumped. Time to surrender and move on.

Once the enemy is in our base and literally just doing stupid stuff because they can, I really don't see why people refuse to surrender. Like even if you ace the enemy, you can't take an objective because every lane is pushed to your base... dragon and baron are gone and you have no timers on them, etc.

MeesterMoo1 votes

4-20?

Gorgiolio1 votes

That actually was not purposeful.

TenSlashTen2 votes

yeah all these low elos just quit too early its the same the only games where you start to see them actually pass the 30 minute mark on a regular basis and its not already one sided as fuck by that point is 2.3k+ mmr elo

I've still got people in 2.1k mmr who go 0/5 in lane like idk how thats possible but they do. Or people who play amumu jungle and then don't gank until 10 minutes and wonder why their team lost. just dumb choices made over and over by people it makes no sense.

Had so many bad games from people making choices that just don't help the team win at all in anyway shape or form Went from d4 promos all the way to plat 2 recently and been stuck there like 10+ games because of thes constant poor decision making. lol I can only control 10% of every game. The elo gods do not smile on me. I should just start playing all the broken chars or something idk. I just wanted to get d3 2.2k-2.4k mmr and then not play ranked anymore for the season. All i wanted lol. So sad boo hoo,.

I Main Swain2 votes

honestly, the only times I ever consider just sitting in base and letting them win to be a valid move (aside from when you have multiple afk's) is when they are winning at such a landslide that there is absolutely no way you are coming back unless they throw as hard as one can possibly throw. im talking matches where the score is 0 20 at 12 minutes and any person on their team can at least 3v1. aside from that though, I don't care if I'm 0 15 on draven (guilty, happens more often than not) I still keep playing and at least split push or even build frikin tank to absorb some of their focus. but quit? quitting is almost always an idiotic move.

Champion Skin1 votes

Bruiser Draven? XD

AFK Push1 votes

tank draven OP, he does it all baby

Champion Skin1 votes

Global ADC taunt OP

AFK Push1 votes

So then Draven is the Teemo of the bot lane? No wonder I get camped when I play him.

Champion Skin1 votes

Well more like almost all ADC's have taunt because well... have to kill that ADC fuck everything else we have to dive and kill that ADC And well most other champions like that like teemo and Sona... they just seem so easy to kill even though they aren't if they build tank for some reason (but you are totally still going to aim them right?)

Laisenberg1 votes

nah wood 5 are the worst.

MeesterMoo1 votes

Cardboard 6 is worse

Bard in a Diaper1 votes

no the worst players are your mid and bot that are somehow dying without ganks. If you die simply to your lane just uninstall

warpenguin55513 votes

[{quoted}](name=Quinn Caused 911,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oLd1PI4s,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2015-04-21T14:33:52.204+0000)

no the worst players are your mid and bot that are somehow dying without ganks. If you die simply to your lane just uninstall

Probably the worst advice i have ever seen in Gameplay and Balance.

PikaCHU5674 votes

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Probably the worst advice i have ever seen in Gameplay and Balance.

Exactly what I'm thinking... xD

khorney1 votes

I have something worse then that . I was jungker I ganked bot gave adc 2 kills and no one died on our team including fb and they somehow blow it ..... And it's my fault for not hand caring r there lane . not to mention they got ganked when the Bush was warded so instead of sitting back he I assumed was trying to bait out the jungker for a kill but dies instead yet it's my fault . I go 25 4 and 8 as rengar I can only do so much like wtf team

alcatrazEscapee1 votes

So, if everyone that dies without ganks follows your advice, you would have people from bronze to LCS uninstall? People lose 1v1s in LCS as well. For every amazing play someone makes, someone else has to be on the receiving end of it.

Otter4Blue1 votes

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So, if everyone that dies without ganks follows your advice, you would have people from bronze to LCS uninstall? People lose 1v1s in LCS as well. For every amazing play someone makes, someone else has to be on the receiving end of it.

what are you talking about?

Vegas Dad1 votes

An you really did lose it wasn't nasus fault and the delusion that you were coming back becUse the enemy team hadn't bothered to back in a while and did some sloppy dive because they knew it didn't matter wasn't really you coming back.

So no sorry thAt nasus isn't the worst type of player you guys got creamed get real surrender and move into another game and stop pretending or wanting that miracle 1 in 10000 comeback stories.

Otter4Blue3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Vegas Dad,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oLd1PI4s,comment-id=0017,timestamp=2015-04-22T00:18:43.831+0000)

An you really did lose it wasn't nasus fault and the delusion that you were coming back because the enemy team hadn't bothered to back in a while and did some sloppy dive because they knew it didn't matter wasn't really you coming back.

So no sorry thAt nasus isn't the worst type of player you guys got creamed get real surrender and move into another game and stop pretending or wanting that miracle 1 in 10000 comeback stories.

you missed the point why i said he was the worst. and i did not say it was not my fault for losing. i contributed to that plenty but he was not the first player to just stop playing because of a few bad outcomes. i had this happen to me when i won a game once too. decided it is a lost game fine. stopping to play, fine. harassing your team the whole time is my problem. he decided not to play, then he forced us to stop too.

AFK Push1 votes

Yeah, I understand saying "I don't think we can win unless they throw" etc., but you have to at least put forth some effort. Those people that just truly give up, defeatists, kind of just piss me off.

delios1 votes

I've seen worse.

Nasus "I need to stay top the whole game cause i need to only be effective when i have tp" Evelynn (i picked this jungler because ranked isn't competitive and i dont need to win) Yasuo (expects someone to go malph in champ select, gets mad when nobody does) Varus AFK at 5 minutes because he gave away first blood Khazix AFK at 12 minutes cause i refused to let him dive my lane opponent Urgot YOLO Thresh "omg ill f**king support because none of u peasants can" Katarina first pick, expects not to get countered, gives first blood, AFK Kalista (throws you into worst situation) Nidalee "omg gank me you noob ive been waiting for a minute) MissFortune "only supports ward the whole game"

Champion Skin1 votes

Well.. does Yasuo really need malphite though? Wouldn't other champions like... Kalista, Alistar, Chogath or other champions with Knock ups also work?

delios2 votes

This one cried because he didn't get a Malph. I'm very sorry I don't know his logic cause we won anyway. Even after the game, he still went on about how someone should of followed up with a malph.

Champion Skin1 votes

Sounds like quite the annoying idiot

Nucleophilic atk1 votes

For me, the worse type of player is the one that plays Zed.

Honestly though, I hate a lot of types of players. Players that play champs in ranked that they have 0 normal games with, people that dive the 4-0 enemy when they are 0-4, and supports that stand behind the minion wave doing nothing are just a few examples.

Death in 4 Acts1 votes

People need to learn that 'feeding' isn't necessarily the end depending on the extent of their deaths, if they're like 1/3, 1/4 all they have to do is play safe and farm and DON'T PUSH OUT IN THE LANE WITH NO T1 TOWER and they won't get goonsquaded and rekt over and over and if they can continue to farm well without dying they catch back up and are easily more than relevant (especially if it's a nasus)

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