+30 Ability Power
+250 Health
+60 Magic Resist
UNIQUE Passive:Every 4 seconds emanates a pulse dealing 80 (+5 per champion level) magic damage to nearby enemy champions and reduces their Magic Resist by 15% for 10 seconds (stacks up to 3 times, up to 45%)
InB4 Amumu rises to 100% win rate.
Drunk Rummate30 voteswtf that completely ruins it as a defensive item for short range mages into ap assassins as well
SlytherinUmbreon19 votesI read somewhere that I rioter said they were planning on making a different AP + MR item, so eventually it will be OK. Eventually...
Drunk Rummate37 votesI read somewhere that I rioter said they were planning on making a different AP + MR item, so eventually it will be OK. Eventually...
They better, because chalice is hardly even a drop in the bucket of MR you need to survive leblanc's lane phase.
SlytherinUmbreon5 votes^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (as tempted as I am to find out whether or not there's a character limit, I'm already bored)
Baron of Bread8 votesConsidering the wall's of text I have squeezed into the comments, I doubt there is.
SnugglePuggle941 votesLB is easy to play against as far as in my elo. I take my main and get fed almost every time.
Drunk Rummate1 votesLB is easy to play against as far as in my elo. I take my main
For you maybe. I main Ahri and Azir :[
It's a "skill matchup" in both, but if I make a single mistake I'm fucked, but she can make several and still win out. Lol. Just so frustrating to deal with her.
SnugglePuggle941 votesAh I see. They are not as tanky as Diana is. It's hard I know. With Diana, I have a hard time going against Yasuo, so I feel your pain.
LoLKiru8 votesI read somewhere that I rioter said they were planning on making a different AP + MR item, so eventually it will be OK. Eventually...
They better, because chalice is hardly even a drop in the bucket of MR you need to survive leblanc's lane phase.
Its actually supposed to be coming out in this same cycle from what I remember a red saying.
So soon(™).
SlytherinUmbreon2 votesSweet :u
JimmyNtheKudos5 votesThis is the problem man, you have to wait weeks (sometimes even months) for compensatory changes. It's getting quite annoying.
Abyssal Scepter is an excellent item I see no reason to change it. If they feel they need to fill some kind of void in item builds, they should just build a new item (they're going to anyway apparently).
Tourian3 votesExcept that the only time you ever saw Abyssal Scepter in its current state would be on either Katarina or Diana. The item is intended for AP Bruisers, not AP assassins. The only person who is going to get hurt by the change is Katarina and she doesn't need the item anyway to do stupid damage as for Diana it's probably going to have synergy with her now.
The Loveless2 voteswtf that completely ruins it as a defensive item for short range mages into ap assassins as well
last week, they said they wanted to also find some MR options for standard mages/ap assassins. Not sure why only Scepter got pushed with a change in this current PBE patch but hopefully we see something soon.
AtheosisX26 votesDid they just item buff Sejuani? Really? Rofl...
Rand0mH3r0X6 votesDid they just item buff Sejuani? Really? Rofl...
They did wtf. DPS Tanks are ruling this meta.
OperationDEEZ12 votesThey item buffed Kat too..
At least this will benefit champions like 
and and it'll probably work well with Ekko too.
Vellich0r6 votesKat won't survive long enough to get one of the passive waves off. She will be fine.
pE4CbxDPQO23 votesjunglerboy162 votesPicked on both sides in blind pick, wins both sides, Amumu is Amumu's new best friend.
Space Bum7 votesSo if you win 1 game in a series you move up a division?
Critmaster Garen18 votesoh great. rumble is not gonna be a pest at all.
edit.: 45% mr shred? are you fucking kidding me? with 60 mr and 250 health, id probably build this shit on garen, lmao. well. time to spam rumble in ranked. vlad is gonna profit from this aswell.
if this sticks, im gonna be really fucking surprised.
The Loveless2 votes[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=svZMoR1c,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2015-05-13T20:43:53.913+0000)
oh great. rumble is not gonna be a pest at all.
edit.: 45% mr shred? are you fucking kidding me? with 60 mr and 250 health, id probably build this shit on garen, lmao. well. time to spam rumble in ranked. vlad is gonna profit from this aswell.
if this sticks, im gonna be really fucking surprised.
it sounds nuts, but it takes 12 seconds if coming from one source. I imagine team comps will run at least double Abyssal though to cover some good ground.
qetzel4 votes8-12 seconds if we are being pedantic - you could be jumped on as the first wave is released.
Apollocliptic1 votesFor someone like Cho, Galio or Rumble that is easy, Vlad and morde should benefit a lot too. You don't need more than one if it's build on an AP tank (same goes for Zac, he is often forgotten) Amumu goes without saying ofc
The Loveless5 votesI think you are looking at "45% mr reduction" and not visualizing the big picture. Teamfights generally don't last 12 seconds. If anything, 3 hits of the pulse shred is a reward for tanking the fight long enough, because your enemies must seriously refuse to die if you can't kill them within 12 seconds.
Morsigil13 votes
: Haha... Hahaha... Ah haha... AHHH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!
The Yetii Rider10 votesNo, with Cinderhulk, Abyssal Scepter AND Despair, Amumu will have 3 different ridiculous sources of Magic Damage over time, as well as his passive and his Abyssal Scepter shredding MR to make it almost true damage.
Edit: Just noticed that this item gives MORE MR than 
or 
. Such balance
Saianna1 votesAmumu has to AA target to shred his MR
Amumu can only shred his target MR twice (if i remember correctly)
Abyssal scepter gives more MR, but less HP and no HEALTH REGEN, which means for DEF SV/BV > AS
and last one. Amumu will be strong, but not even close to how strong mage-assassins will get (Diana/Akali)
junglerboy163 votesMage assassins will hate this item, because they have to sit on their enemy for a whole 12 seconds to get the shred fully applied, where a tanky little guy like Amumu will have no problem walking around inside the enemy team.
LeeDark4 votesThe extended fight required to get the benefit of the item will severely hurt mage assassins who previously built this item. They also would prefer the current higher AP value. The idea that this benefits AP assassins more than tanks is, frankly, idiotic.
The Loveless2 voteson the flipside, 250 health is quite low, especially if you buy this early game
health is much more effective early when it comes to defense > resistances
Mandang05 votesTrue, but it's more health than current abyssal.
Jasiwel8 votesWelp, there goes my go-to buy for Viktor against LeBlanc or Fizz.
These changes are absolutely unnecessary. They should just make another item if they're going to change it this drastically.
BluePolarizer6 votes
you 
thought 
we 
were 
broken 
before?
MetalGearTeemu5 votesArise AP Tankplank.
It is time for you to show them that you are a pirate.
Kieferr4 votesGG amumu sejuani 99.9% winrate in soloq
NorthernDruid4 votesThat AP is kinda really pathetic.
If it's gonna be an offensive/defensive bruiser item then give it some actual AP and not top tier MR.
This is really a strong buff to existing AoE magic damage dealing TANKS like Ammumu and Sejuani.
Abyssal Scepter is something I really want to be able to get when I'm more offensive focused on any close range AP champion. When I'm willing to sacrifice a bit of offensive power for resistances (like building it instead of Void Staff when they're not building much MR, or i'm not the main damage source).
Even if they make a new item with decent AP+MR, that one probably won't have any mPen of any kind.
The new passive looks interesting enough, but the low low AP just makes it so unattractive. When I'm a bruiser or an AP champion of any kind, I wanna deal damage and pressure using my abilities, not fiddly passives on items.
aaronconlin3 votes mmmm
IwfiKe3qjM2 votesIMO too much MR (reduce a little and increase HP instead) too much pulse damage (base reduced from 80 to 70 and gain 4 per level instead of 5) too much TOTAL %MR reduce (45% better be around 40%)
sounds like 
+ 
+ 
for me... and total price around 2500-2600...
+ 
combined with some changes???
The Loveless2 votes12 seconds is a long time
Jeddy0172 votesI read a tweet from a Rioter saying they wanted to make Abyssal the ap equivalent of the new Black Cleaver.So basically making an ideal item for AP bruisers over you're standard mage or AP assassin.
Though,this completely fucks over options for said mage & AP assassins.
/
is now the only option you can get if you don't want a 
to fuck you in the ass early.
Mid laners needs some defense options like top laners.Just because they should focus on damage,they don't have the benefit of a support like the ADC.
Aeolian Melodies3 votesTo be fair, mid laners tend to have a lot more utility and CC to self-peel than ADCs do. Many mid laners are their own supports.
Raxxius2 votesThese changes firmly plant it in the ap bruiser/tank ball park. Tanks lock up with CC and deal all magic damage from their abilities. The synergy with Sunfire cape/cinderhulk is strong and the sustained grind down is a strong part of tanks damage, it has decent defensive stats as well.
Problem I have with this item is it now sits in a very crowded Mr + health pool. We have Banshees, Spirit Visage, Locket, Banner of Command, and now Abyssal Scepter. Banner of Command is already struggling for attention, and it's very rare that you get more than one MR item due to void staff anyway.
I'd be looking at getting this on Voli as well, his ult + roar are magic damage + cinderhulk, tanks for playing
Delioth2 votesI need this, sunfire, and then health+regen items. I will play Mundo. Mundo will go as he pleases, killing everything by standing there. Nothing can stop Mundo.
FourVsFive1 votesSo I assuming we shld just give up in building MR items... 45%+void staff = 80% reduction ow...
Critmaster Garen3 votesSo I assuming we shld just give up in building MR items... 45%+void staff = 80% reduction ow...
its not additive, but it will still be well over 50%
RavenKouhai1 votes5 damage per champ level with 80 base? is it just me or is that a FUCKTON of damage? That's like 120 every 4 seconds mid game plus half mr shred.
Critmaster Garen2 votes5 damage per champ level with 80 base? is it just me or is that a FUCKTON of damage? That's like 120 every 4 seconds mid game plus half mr shred.
basically 30 damage per second. still 12 less than sunfire cape (well, unless you stack both items, which isnt difficult to imagine). the magic damage is honestly not the problem i have with the item. but 45% magic shred is a fuckton.
mostly tanks and ap bruisers that stay for extended time in melee will apply the debuff. and then mages are going to deal a shitton of damage off that with void staff.
