Regarding Yi, here is an idea

NA Darklarik··1 votes·1,082 views

Remove the True damage from his E. Just make it doble, or even triple de attack damage boost while E Wuju style is upgraded to compensate, that way he dosent apply on hit BS.

And his Q, remove the AA induced CDR. Lower its CD a bit, have it reset on Kill.

Id presume he will still be strong after this, but maybe then he wont be completely broken like he is now.

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Warlord Rhinark2 votes

triple attack damage boost

Oh no

MasterYi item 3812 item 3508 item 3074 item 3072 item 3031 item 3046

NA Darklarik1 votes

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Oh no

MasterYi item 3812 item 3508 item 3074 item 3072 item 3031 item 3046

But he would still be auto attacks. He wouldent be Perma-untargetablle thanks to the synergy of item 3508 and buying Armor would actually DO something against him if you take his True damage away or build item 3143 or item 3075 Both currently useless items against him.

I did say i still think he would be strong, just not broken.

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

He wouldent be Perma-untargetablle thanks to the synergy of item 3508

You mean he will, right?

buying Armor would actually DO something against him

item 3036

NA Darklarik1 votes

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You mean he will, right?

item 3036

Um no, because if you read what i said, you see i said to REMOVE his AA CDR on his Q. His autos should no longer lower the CDR of his Q.

And if he is forced to actually invest in that item it will be a huge gold chuck he invests in THAT instead of the other items like health or more raw damage.

Are you even ranked? Like do you comprehend the first thing about trade-offs?

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

Um no, because if you read what i said, you see i said to REMOVE his AA CDR on his Q. His autos should no longer lower the CDR of his Q.

I wasn't referring to his passive. I was referring to the item. He would still be getting Q CDR from auto attacking from Essence Reaver.

And if he is forced to actually invest in that item it will be a huge gold chuck he invests in THAT instead of the other items like health or more raw damage.

Still gives 40 AD on the side. If he triples this every E, it gets up to 120.

I won't exactly say he misses out on THAT much damage.

Are you even ranked?

Silver 4.

Like do you comprehend the first thing about trade-offs?

I do.

NA Darklarik1 votes

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I wasn't referring to his passive. I was referring to the item. He would still be getting Q CDR from auto attacking from Essence Reaver.

Still gives 40 AD on the side. If he triples this every E, it gets up to 120.

I won't exactly say he misses out on THAT much damage.

Silver 4.

I do.

First, it would still be a nerf, because instead of lowering his Q CD by 2 seconds it would only be by 1, and only when he has bought Essence Reaver. second, Im not talking about trippling his total AD genius, just the passive bonus he gets from Wuju style, with is 10%, read his abilities jesus. and third, bro you Silver, so basically you dont understand squat, else you wouldn't be practically bronze.

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

First, it would still be a nerf, because instead of lowering his Q CD by 2 seconds it would only be by 1, and only when he has bought Essence Reaver.

Again, I neither said it was a nerf nor did I say it was a buff. I wasn't referring to his passive at all. I focused entirely on Essence Reaver.

second, Im not talking about trippling his total AD genius, just the passive bonus he gets from Wuju style, with is 10%, read his abilities jesus.

Your post could've clarified this better.

and third, bro you Silver, so basically you dont understand squat, else you wouldn't be practically bronze.

Rank shaming is against the (Updated) Boards Universal Rules.

Besides, you're unranked and level 7 yourself so I don't believe you're in any position to judge me.

Stop hating stop that shit right now I love everybody

NA Darklarik1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sghzXnYo,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-19T10:30:13.831+0000)

Again, I neither said it was a nerf nor did I say it was a buff. I wasn't referring to his passive at all. I focused entirely on Essence Reaver.

Your post could've clarified this better.

Rank shaming is against the (Updated) Boards Universal Rules.

Besides, you're unranked and level 7 yourself so I don't believe you're in any position to judge me.

Stop hating stop that shit right now I love everybody

Im in high platinum with a 58% win rate, incase this profile's name is any clarification, i only made it so that i could partake in the NA boards.

This idea is still a net nerf to a champ who is bonkers broken because of the synergy with this item. Either the item's passive needs to go, or his Q CD reduction needs to be removed.

Sasogwa1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sghzXnYo,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-06-18T09:58:47.815+0000)

Oh no

MasterYi item 3812 item 3508 item 3074 item 3072 item 3031 item 3046

Oh god my eyes are bleeding though, why would you ever go 3 lifesteal items? shudders

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

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Oh god my eyes are bleeding though, why would you ever go 3 lifesteal items? shudders

When you deal one billion damage per auto, healing for 47% of the damage done makes it worth it.

Sasogwa1 votes

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When you deal one billion damage per auto, healing for 47% of the damage done makes it stronk.

Well no. 10000 times no. When you deal one billion damage per auto, one lifesteal item is enough to sustain yourself through the fight, what you need is tankiness to survive burst and things to outplay CC, like a QSS. Your build is crit and doesn't even have 100% crit. You have 0 armor, 0 mr. You have no real burst. Death's dance doesn't heal anything off true damage (which you would be doing in any case cause IE).

If you want to really have an almost one shot build where they die before they can react it would look more like : item 3031 item 3087 item 3046 item 3142 item 3147 item 3508 (and still since crit got changed it kinda sucks crit isn't 2.5x anymore)

If you want a pseudo viable crit build it would look more like

item 3031 item 3046 item 3087 item 3153 item 3156 item 3742

(well I'm talking about absolute 6 items builds in ultra lategame but ofc during the game you'll have boots)

In any case crit Yi builds as of right now are kind of garbage. On-hit can just deal more with more defensive item slots.

Sasogwa1 votes

Removing the autoattack reduction on Q's CD completely butchers the champion though. Like, seriously. You could potentially halve it and reduce Q CD by a bunch of seconds, but Yi needs to have this AA synergy on Q CD to be able to follow his opponents, all his patterns of play are about that

Btw Yi isn't broken. Supports are. Yi in combination with supports is powerful. But Yi as a standalone? Borderline bad.

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