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Am I the only person who does NOT want 10 bans? It seems a terrible idea.

XxxLumberJackxxX··3 votes·445 views

Here's a simple reason. Typically there are 3-6 'meta/best' champions in any given role. Especially in bot lane and jungle. So what am I going to ban as the team captain on Blue side? Some combination of: Ashe, Caitlyn, Ezreal, Jhin, Jinx, Lucian and then FP the last one. Completely gimping the other team of a decent ADC champion.

Remember in S2 when teams would try to ban out players like Scarra by banning Gragas, Kat, Karthus, his top 3 champs? Imagine that now when you are now requiring every player to be faker and have the deepest champion pools available. EVERY player in lcs now MUST play at least 6 champions at a hyper competitive level.

Not every player is faker... this is going to make things painful for a lot of players who are allready stressed out about learning a new set of champions every patch. Now instead of learning 2-4 'new' champs every patch they have to learn 4-6

14 Comments

zlumpy2 votes

Woah woah woah.....you mean you DON'T want diversity in the pro scene? Thats like the number one reason everyone stops watching or caring about their games eventually.

Oglaf1 votes

Since it definitely seems to be the real reason why they removed Normal Draft, I hate it with a passion.

XxxLumberJackxxX1 votes

Also is there a link with a red talking about this in detail?

Ralanr1 votes

Ten bans? Guess I'll never get to play Talon.

Stephenizgod1 votes

My issue with not having 10 bans is that Player 1 and 2 just get counter-picked. It kind of sucks to be player 1-2, I hate having to pick my champion first hoping they don't pick a rough match-up and begging my team to ban someone that will give me a rough time.

Furthermore, there are a lot of champions I like to ban just to keep off my team (like Yasuo and Nasus) because 9 out of 10 games I have one of these types of champions i will lose and they are directly the cause of the problem or we don't lose but they cause us a ridiculous amount of struggle (particularly Nasus players...). This leaves stronger champions open though and then we have a rough time against them.

10 bans is a lot but I think we should try it out for a couple patches before deciding whether its bad or good.

Kaioko1 votes

I don't think 10 bans is a bad idea in all honesty. It'll make each player feel like they have a fair say in the ban list. As far as your example of banning 5 ADC champions and picking the last viable one; there's more than 5 viable ones which is why we can actually move from 3 bans to 5 bans. It's ridiculous to think we have the same ban amounts with double the champions.

Ashe Caitlyn Draven Ezreal Jinx MissFortune Lucian Sivir Tristana Vayne

Not to mention if your coordinated team (because non-coordinated won't do this) bans the 5 ADC champions and picks the last tier 1 ADC; then you are allowing the opposing team to pick two tier one champions of other roles.

Edit: I forgot Twitch is actually in a pretty good spot currently as well.

XxxLumberJackxxX1 votes

If the other team spreads their bans 'evenly' across other roles there will be plenty of tier 1 picks to choose from.

And please don't try to tell me MF is viable as an ADC pick, or that sivir is anything other than a very specific team comp pick. Draven also isn't tier 1 or 2. My point remains valid.

Kaioko3 votes

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If the other team spreads their bans 'evenly' across other roles there will be plenty of tier 1 picks to choose from.

And please don't try to tell me MF is viable as an ADC pick, or that sivir is anything other than a very specific team comp pick. Draven also isn't tier 1 or 2. My point remains valid.

MF is definitely viable as an ADC pick not sure where you've been or if you've missed the professional plays in the past season. How she will do in this season is still to be seen; but like RIOT has said they are going to look at all ADCs to try to get them balance with the whole issue Vayne is causing currently.

And I didn't argue that all these were tier 1 pick just that they all can manage to do the job and are viable currently. That's 11 champions which definitely allows you for some choice even after 5 bans.

XxxLumberJackxxX1 votes

She was played as a support in a niche match up, never as the carry.

ShinkoMinori1 votes

Where is jhin... this post is stupid

Kaioko1 votes

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Where is jhin... this post is stupid

Yeah I missed him probably another who knows! I was just trying to make a point as to why 5 bans is ok lol.

XxxLumberJackxxX1 votes

And you didn't make the point... you just listed every champion under 'marksmen' there is a reason several of those don't see competitive play

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

Considering how many of the complaints regarding professional play are directed at the small pool of champions picked, this would help force players to diversify their picks and introduce an additional layer of strategy.

Also, I'd hope they would break-up bans and picks if they allowed 5 bans (i.e Ban 2, Pick 2, Ban 3, Pick 3).

As an example, suppose a professional team noticed an attempt to ban one of their players out.

They could easily pick one of that player's remaining champions early in the draft to prevent this from happening.

This could very easily be an attempt by the opposing team to force a certain player or role to be picked early in the draft so that they have to opportunity to counterpick them.

Hotaru is Waifu1 votes

the reason we should not have 10 bans is cuz in lcs the pros would have to champs to play they just keep using the same ones

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