[{quoted}](name=Angry Monster,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sKRapTG8,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2016-06-06T03:27:15.774+0000)
you can tell the unranked and bronze from the other ranked players. Starting with your post. A jungler can do so much more than guard the mid laner. When did the jungler becomes 2nd support?
Well you certainly cant.
My known accounts:
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=likeamaws, Master season 4, diamond 1 most of the time, currently falling :(
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=ev3carriesu, a Plat 1 one trick account for learning to jungle properly last season
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=polygon+symphony, Random smurf I use to play with low level players and test things, decayed from plat 2 at the moment, but it cant fall any lower at the moment.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Second+Chance+Hero, Another random smurf for playing with low level players.
Meanwhile you:
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=angry+monster
Never been above gold. Wonder why? Probably because you ignore useful advice like this, even when it comes from diamond players.
Would you like to continue to stick your foot in your mouth? Or would you agree now that this is probably a situation where you made a mistake and can possibly learn something from a much superior player?
Edit: I should probably also include some useful and constructive debate as well now that I think about it so I'll address the issue of a jungler being the "second support".
Duh. That's always been the case. In pro play and in high level play for 6 years this has always been the case. The jungler IS the second support. Why do you think pro junglers always buy SS on junglers? They are the second role for which strategic decisions and team coordination are most important. Yes, a jungler can certainly be more than a ward bot and will need to be in order to have success. But part of that success comes from achiving a junglers primary goal and purpose of controlling the map at all points in time for any given game. One of the best ways to control the map is with vision, and since much of the vision tools were heavily nerfed this season its all the MORE important for a jungler to excel in this regard. In fact vision is so hampered that I made this post about it 6 months ago: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/9H4KqONg-please-for-the-love-of-god-bring-back-stealth-wards-in-the-shop
The removal of so many vision tools has lead directly to aiding in the snowball meta we currently see. The best way to stop a snowball is to have good information to act on. The best way to have good information to act on is to have good vision. Help your team out by properly warding important areas of the map in the early and mid game stages, protect your laners, (not just mid lane, although they are the most vulnerable) and protect your lead and strategic advantage in game by preventing your teammates from acting improperly with too little information.
Live and learn mate. Live and learn.
as a tank jungler, typically I am in the habit of buying this and switching to the sweeper.