why nerf viktor

Vynikk··4 votes·884 views

I mean being such an immobile champion why would you nerf him. Like when e is his only ability that does a decent amount of damage why would you nerf it, when I go in a team fight as viktor and I w + e, and then my whole team is dead and I'm left with no escape and my q and e won't do enough damage and I can't kite for movement speed to get away because every champion can easily dash, alpha, jump onto me. It feels like flash is his only form of getting out. And that w doesn't do much with team comps that can easily make their way around it. Viktors w just feels like a gauntlet, and you can't find anybody dumb enough to stand on his w for .5-1.5 seconds. It feels like the cooldowns last too long for a champion that is so reliant on this abilities. At least a shield passive like panth or yasuo would help. And you nerfed him because he could spend an eternity farming, but players try to only farm with him because they know they can't make plays with an immobile champion with large cooldowns and no passives. And it seems like exhaust or heal is necessary for viktor. His damage is basically useless if your team falls back because you can't do any damage without being penalized. And the funny thing about this nerf, is that it doesn't affect his farming at all. Being a viktor main rushing hexcore for the after shock is all that's needed to farm. So basically his farm is unaffected, and his ability to do damage is. And I thought you were going to give him a pro, because usually with nerfs you give something to compensate for the change. And with a champion like viktor, not even hiding under tower is viable. It feels like I have to build defensive as soon as I get into a game because he's so squishy, it's sad when supports have a bigger impact. Viktor seems really weak in this meta. I might as well choose Lulu over viktor because she has a better impact. Since his q's range is about the same and her q's slows while having a long range. Viktor needs a change to his numbers or something, since he's a downgrade if many champions in this game.

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Sugar Momma2 votes

"I go into a teamfight and then my whole team is dead"

Sounds like a teamfight you shouldn't have gone into in the first place. As immobile champions like Viktor , you have to think ahead in order to position correctly. You're supposed to be punished if you are caught in the wrong place at the wrong time.

His E was nerfed because it could clear entire waves when upgraded with no interaction whatsoever. No champion could clear entire waves on a basic ability from such a high range like he could.

ItLooms2 votes

That is just not true. Anivia R+Q, Morgana W, Zilean two bombs can clear waves just as easily as Viktor could. I would also argue that Zed's clear at early levels too is broken.

If Riot thought that his waveclear should be nerfed then why the hell not limit his E's damage on minions? You know....like on other champions. They nerfed his signature ability which he uses as his main damage source not exclusively as a waveclear tool.

It was a very poor deciison on Riot's part. The 6.4 patch makes absolutely no sense to me. Buff Ryze? The second most banned champion in Diamond elo (and higher)? Out of all the cancerous champions that are currently there, they picked Viktor?

Sugar Momma2 votes

I said clear waves entirely on a basic ability meaning ONE ability.

Anivia R + Q is two abilities and she needs her ult, thus has poor wave clear pre-6.

Morgana W will not one hit the melee minions and won't even one hit the caster minions until you have at least three ranks in it.

Zilean two bombs takes getting into melee range to group the minions and again is two abilities, his Q and W.

ItLooms2 votes

Viktor does not clear melee minions, especially not early on. And why is it important that you use ONE ability? Anivia's ult has a shorter cooldown than Viktor's E at level 5.

"Morgana W will not one hit the melee minions and won't even one hit the caster minions until you have at least three ranks in it." Well...Viktor certainly does not clear whole waves with 3 ranks in his E.

But just disregard all that. If the emphasis is on waveclear...why not modify the damage to minions instead of nerfing his E in its entirety?

Vynikk2 votes

The nerf to the E didn't effect wave clears at ALL. it was completely the same. That's why I said the nerf was useless for it's intended purpose. And the thing is EVERY place is a bad place for Viktor.

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