OK, it was funny for a couple games

Panth ults around around map all game long, nothing op, just annoying. Eve gets pentas all day long and is kind of op in URF.

Don't nitpick my comment.... I'm just saying there's plenty of champions that are "OP" in URF, besides URf isnt supposed to be balanced, its supposed to be crazy fun.

Eve is insane, lol, her Qs with spellvamp means she heals through pretty much any DPS plus her W is on permanently, which makes it pretty hard to hit skillshots on her. She's pretty difficult to deal with unless you have targeted CC and/or large burst potential.

Panth also just chews people out with infinite Qs and permastun W, but I wouldn't say he's as much of a problem as some of the other ones

It's annoying sometimes when you talk about balance. Nobody cares (except support mains) if healing gets gutted, but everyone loves more damage.

Imagine if damage was reduced as well for awhile in URF. People would lose their minds.

I understand that too much defensive utility and healing would stall games and make it boring, but there's a point when you got to realize the game is more than tons of damage and twitch reflexes. Back in nemesis mode, people kept saying "don't give them damage" and I tried to warn them, but we'd get wrecked by all-support/tank teams because we have absolutely no cc and get stun-locked and aoe'd to death.

This isn't a number game, it's a strategy game. And posts like OP is why I keep stressing this.

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And honestly, its 50% reduced sustain for a while + a nerf to her W shield in urf, she's really not that bad

Have you played against one? They just run around masning qwe all game and it completely destroys any semblance of a laning phase. Unless you're 2 high burst champs in the same lane has her and have really good coordination, you won't even have a tiny shot of killing anyone if she doesn't stop mashing her heal. They autobanned her last year for a reason and the changes don't solve the problem.

They downvote because they disagree, but choose not to respond because... well, what are they going to say? They're probably the same people who hate the tank meta, who hate bruisers (though in some cases justified), and don't see the value in supports besides Leona and Thresh and Blitzcrank.

It's just... well, either you get a slow-moving strategy game like chess, or you get a fast-paced twitch reflexes game like CoD. League, imo, has been balanced to be somewhere in the middle, but people are going to have a preference. And not to insult them, but people who prefer fast-paced reflex games are more likely to drive-by downvote rather than sit down and give me a response so I can get insight and understand their point of view. Since they don't, we'll forever be at each other's throats, never understanding one another.

shrugs