Instead of 10 bans, Make it 8?

Bagguette·Aug 20, 2016·3 votes·543 views

10 might be a bit much but i think 8 is a fairly balanced number. People might want 10 though because the last person will feel like shit.

17 Comments

Great MutaAug 20, 20162 votes

The point of it isn't 10 bans, its to make sure everyone gets a ban. There just happen to be 10 players total.

redfeenixAug 21, 20162 votes

Right so that one random player per team gets singled out and gets refused a ban. Yep that sounds fair for all players.

PhantomGGAug 20, 20161 votes

wait where did you read this?

BagguetteAug 21, 20161 votes

Some new riot post or whatever

PhantomGGAug 21, 20161 votes

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Some new riot post or whatever

Merp, hope pro players don't have to go by these rules, the target banning will be so harsh.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 21, 20162 votes

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Merp, hope pro players don't have to go by these rules, the target banning will be so harsh.

or it will shine alight on the truly talented player who have deep champ pools and create some interesting team comps/meta.

as far as the pro who can really only play 2 champs say a jungler who is known for LeeSin RekSai and you forced him onto something like Nidalee and he plays bad and feeds becomes a liability for that team it would be a strategy to play around , oh wait teams did this to tsm jungler all the time.

but the truly good pros like faker and berg or marin will be able to be effective even if you ban out 3 of their champs

PhantomGGAug 21, 20161 votes

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or it will shine alight on the truly talented player who have deep champ pools and create some interesting team comps/meta.

as far as the pro who can really only play 2 champs say a jungler who is known for and you forced him onto something like and he plays bad and feeds becomes a liability for that team it would be a strategy to play around , oh wait teams did this to tsm jungler all the time.

but the truly good pros like faker and berg or marin will be able to be effective even if you ban out 3 of their champs

you really don't get how any of this works, wont even bother to debate.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 21, 20161 votes

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you really don't get how any of this works, wont even bother to debate.

then educate me ole wise one. plz im waiting ....

1796Aug 21, 20161 votes

Lets just perma ban Malzahar Ryze Illaoi Swain , eh wait, just ban everyone except for the champs someone gets in nemesis.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 21, 20161 votes

132 champs having 10 bans is reasonable. no argument here. every player gets to at worst ban one champ that is their counter. so if wanna play nasus top you can ban that one champ that gives you hell. or say lux mid gets to ban the one champ she dont wanna face. it allows more picks to be safely picked blindly knowing you are able to eliminate the 1 bad match up you dont want.

CaptnJakSparrowAug 21, 20161 votes

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132 champs having 10 bans is reasonable. no argument here. every player gets to at worst ban one champ that is their counter. so if wanna play nasus top you can ban that one champ that gives you hell. or say lux mid gets to ban the one champ she dont wanna face. it allows more picks to be safely picked blindly knowing you are able to eliminate the 1 bad match up you dont want.

Or you can just ban the entire adc roster and then lock in one of the few remaining ADCs and watch the enemy team sit there confused since you banned out a player completely.

10 bans is too exploitable with how tiny the adc roster is tbh.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 21, 20161 votes

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Or you can just ban the entire adc roster and then lock in one of the few remaining ADCs and watch the enemy team sit there confused since you banned out a player completely.

10 bans is too exploitable with how tiny the adc roster is tbh.

how many adcs are there lets count Ashe Caitlyn Corki Draven Ezreal Graves Jhin Jinx Kalista Kindred KogMaw Lucian MissFortune Quinn Sivir Tristana Twitch Varus Urgot Vayne i count 20. hmm need alot more then 10 bans to get rid of all adcs

CaptnJakSparrowAug 21, 20161 votes

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how many adcs are there lets count i count 20. hmm need alot more then 10 bans to get rid of all adcs

Draven never played competitively, in fact has very few one trick ponies as well. So, you can leave this guy open and watch the enemy feed on him. Working as intended.

Corki mid laner. Not an adc.

Graves not an adc. Is a ranged jungler bruiser.

Kalista not picked. You can leave her open and watch the enemy feed, thus working as intended.

Quinn not an adc, almost never played. Undertuned. Can leave open and watch them feed, working as intended. Also, is actually a top laner/jungler.

Urgot is a top laner.

Varus is a mid laner.

Kindred is a jungler.

KogMaw is a jungler.

Ashe Caitlyn Draven Ezreal Jhin Jinx Kalista MissFortune Sivir Twitch Tristana Vayne Lucian

That leaves you with this.

Then you realize if you're 1st pick you can do this

Ashe Twitch Jinx Sivir

That leaves

Jhin Caitlyn Lucian MissFortune Tristana Ezreal Draven Vayne Kalista

It looks pretty vast, but then you realize your first pick does this.

Jhin

Then you realize Jhin counters

Caitlyn Lucian Ezreal MissFortune Tristana

And nobody plays Draven And Vayne Kalista are vastly undertuned.

You just single handedly won bot lane.

What's basically going to happen is the enemy is going to do this.

Lucian Lock that bad boy in and then feed his fucking ass off.

This is a legitimate solo queue strategy I utilized to make match ups favorable for me while climbing on a smurf. This gets even worse from a competitive standpoint when you realize that adc players in challenger only play like 2 to 3 adcs at the level they require and you can legitimately ban them completely out of the game.

I mean, you can probably guess what would happen to C9 if Sneaky was forced onto Vayne in his LCS game x3. 1/16/2 kda incoming.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 21, 20161 votes

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never played competitively, in fact has very few one trick ponies as well. So, you can leave this guy open and watch the enemy feed on him. Working as intended.

mid laner. Not an adc.

not an adc. Is a ranged jungler bruiser.

not picked. You can leave her open and watch the enemy feed, thus working as intended.

not an adc, almost never played. Undertuned. Can leave open and watch them feed, working as intended. Also, is actually a top laner/jungler.

is a top laner.

is a mid laner.

is a jungler.

is a jungler.

That leaves you with this.

Then you realize if you're 1st pick you can do this

That leaves

It looks pretty vast, but then you realize your first pick does this.

Then you realize Jhin counters

And nobody plays And are vastly undertuned.

You just single handedly won bot lane.

What's basically going to happen is the enemy is going to do this.

Lock that bad boy in and then feed his fucking ass off.

This is a legitimate solo queue strategy I utilized to make match ups favorable for me while climbing on a smurf. This gets even worse from a competitive standpoint when you realize that adc players in challenger only play like 2 to 3 adcs at the level they require and you can legitimately ban them completely out of the game.

I mean, you can probably guess what would happen to C9 if Sneaky was forced onto Vayne in his LCS game x3. 1/16/2 kda incoming.

they didnt say they were gonna have 10 bans in lcs/pro we are talking about the other 99% of players that play league.

10 bans is a good idea and there are 20 adcs

CaptnJakSparrowAug 21, 20162 votes

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they didnt say they were gonna have 10 bans in lcs/pro we are talking about the other 99% of players that play league.

10 bans is a good idea and there are 20 adcs

The entire concept just wooshed right over your head. Thank you for confirming you're a waste of time lol.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 21, 20161 votes

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The entire concept just wooshed right over your head. Thank you for confirming you're a waste of time lol.

your claim was there arent enough adcs to warrant 10 bans total due to the what if they wanna ban all adcs. i responded there are 20 adcs. you try to counter argue that some of them arent adcs when by def they are. they just get played else where rightnow. then you try to say certain ones are viable in pro play, i counter argued if they do somethign where they try to ban out one type of champ like adcs you can see some meta shifts and different team comps then i stated that the OP was about 10 bans in our games as normal players not rank. and still stated there are 20 adcs so even if 10 bans are used to ban adcs there are still 10 that arent banned and now you say i missed the concept and that im a waste of time. which i didnt miss the concept you did , you missed it from the OP he wasnt talking about pro play. soooo