Unpopular Opinion : I'd rather Lee be strong than most other junglers.

dakota saturn··3 votes·326 views

There is always going to be those few outliers in any role who are going to be picked more often, banned more often, and are complained about more than most.

If Lee gets thrown out of viability, he will be replaced by other bullshit champs like Vi and Hecarim. Lee -has- to snowball since he becomes garbage late game once people group, like most assassins do. Hecarim loves late game, and derptrain express Vi can point and click any carry late game like old Poppy and explode them with zero counterplay or anything. Also, if Lee falls out of favor, Shaco is likely going to replace him as the go-to high skillcap early game champion. Nobody likes Shaco. I find him far more tilting and frustrating than Lee.

The thing is - a lot of these strong junglers have unavoidable point and click abilities that can't be countered in any way. If the Vi flashes in range and presses R, you are going to be CC'd without any chance of retaliating, avoiding it, or anything.

There are far more oppressive junglers than Lee... Imagine if Fiddlesticks became meta and you saw him every single game. Unavoidable point-and-click fear that you can do nothing to avoid, and massive AoE late game. If you are warding and see Lee coming, you can flash out of his Q range and then he can't do anything.

You can outplay Lee - he is strong for sure, it is frustrating as fk to get camped by him early game, but there is actual counterplay to him. There is no counterplay to press R -> Click champion -> HUAAAAA UHHHH Vi . Be careful what you wish for.

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7 Comments

Xeruon2 votes

Agreed.

Even though I absolutely despise playing against Lee, all the other junglers who would come to replacing are much, much more polarizing to play against.

IA9hRfpP5q2 votes

Vi cant be countered.

Canastus1 votes

This man got it right, her current winrate also reflects that quite well. There's no counterplay to a champion who can utterly destroy anyone with a single triforce while building tanky and having access to an UNSTOPPABLE targeted hard cc ability. It's downright broken and the main reason why I'll continue to ban her until she finally sees some nerfs.

IA9hRfpP5q1 votes

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This man got it right, her current winrate also reflects that quite well. There's no counterplay to a champion who can utterly destroy anyone with a single triforce while building tanky and having access to an UNSTOPPABLE targeted hard cc ability. It's downright broken and the main reason why I'll continue to ban her until she finally sees some nerfs.

Riot be like: Let's give her a targetless dash... OH AND A GAP CLOSER THAT CANT BE STOPPED. LUL.

xBushx1 votes

It's true I would rather have a Lee use some sort of skill and Insec me to die than have "Ball of stats Vi" come out of nowhere with a point and click ult and one shot me. Fucking clown shoes!

Edit: Didnt even read full post and we ended up on the same page anwyays...you must be Canadian!

yes I just assumed your country!

Silencega1 votes

i miss early s6 shyvana. her clear still gives me chills dude. can we have that back rito?

Jmman1 votes

this coming from the guy that said fiddle has the longs cc in the game.... yea I just read it and knew it was.

point and click fear compared to point and click vi ult... or the lee ult that has to cc you then let lee decide if he needs to flash because he missed up his position on where to kick you?

or maybe by junglers you can't see that kill you in a few hits.

I total get it. Lee was top for how many seasons we shouldn't let anyone else try right...

ps quit posting picture of your self on the internet people might steal your id.

edit fiddle meta.... ok team just free farm till 6.....

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