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Riot games, do you think that making chests easier to get would make people play less league?

Namid S··3 votes·573 views

Help me understand why you let your premade queue teammates get chests for you, but not random people, because it's obviously not feeling like people should earn them if their friends can easily unlock them. I am not good at league, but there are quiiiite a few people who share that trait with me.

Why do i have to invest time learning a champ that I will possibly dislike, when I could easily be playing a champ i'm comfortable with to get the same rewards? You could even have something like "one s for a chest, then two..." capping at 4 or 5 and it would allow people to enjoy the games EVERY time instead of having to worry about needing to waste time that they could be enjoying the game trying to learn another champion they will probably never play until the next season rolls around.

I get it, you can use the excuse "we want to diversify peoples champion pools" but come on, help out the little guy that WORKS and doesnt have time to play multiple games a day let alone learn new champions.

It's only one chest per week riot games, its only one champ shard per week. I'm still going to be at the computer playing league whether you appriciate me or not, along with probably 40% of your playerbase, but damn can you show your community that you understand how the world works?

19 Comments

Tranoze1 votes

No it would make less people "Pay" for league. have chest on your own already a win compare to old season, where it impossible for free players to gain any skin. So stop complaining. Riot does not work for free.

Namid S1 votes

So you think that people who pay for skins are going to care about one free chest a week that most likely wont be what they want, and are going to stop paying for skins because of it.

Tranoze1 votes

like if you are a X main, and after open 10~20 chest, finally you got a skin for X, you will eventually upgrade it to permanent. Back to the old day, if you are a X main, and after play X long enough, you'll buy skin of X.

Sometimes i want project Yi, i could save money for month for it, but then i got Ionian Yi instead from chest, of course i wont buy project yi anymore since i have a Yi skin and i wont waste money on yi anymore. I would be more happy if i get project Yi, but it doesnt matter anymore

it may not give you what you wanted, but it give you something good enough that you dont need the thing you wanted for a price anymore.

Namid S1 votes

almost 400 different skins, and you think you'll get a good one in 10-20 chests? its at least 50-60 chests, if that! not counting champion shards that you can also get, and wasn't the chest system DESIGNED to give people chances at free skins for some of their favorite champs? so whats the harm in making the roulette that's already stacked against that a little easier to even play?

Xion The XIV1 votes

It all depends. I opened 5 chests and got Battlecast Skarner/Chogath, but the others were garbage skins I turned into dust. I open chests as soon as I got the Key and chest(Too impatient to save and open a bunch at once) and got elemental lux too. I love to play Skarner and from the amount of time I have played and with this chest system I got all of my Skarner skins from chests and I have them all but the Runic one. Even the garbage sandscourge it's all up to RNG and anyone who has played Grind MMO's know that RNGesus will either praise you or laugh at you.

Namid S1 votes

RNG! THERE you see??? I'm not saying that riot should have better RNG, I'm not saying they should take money out of their pockets to give us more skins from chests! Just make the chests more accessible to all types of players, not just the ones who play every single champion well enough to get an S rating! What do you have against that??? Riot WANTS to give us these chests, so why can't they accommodate the vast majority of players who aren't "s rank every week" material?

Xion The XIV1 votes

But it's not that hard to get an S on a champion. It just depends on if you want to go for chests or not. I have positively thrown games to get my S on Skarner. Because I refused to go into a team fight of 5% chance we win. Eventually it will not be a problem to get an S because you will eventually find the threshold of what you need and go for that in every game. For Skarner I needed at least 7/1 and 140 CS. They eventually just need to find where to hit each game and go for that. Who cares if you loose a game going for a chest winning wasn't the point of that game.

Namid S1 votes

This is one champion. ONE BOX. How long did it take you to learn what it takes to get an S consistently on Skarner? Now do that exact same pointless routine for champs you don't like. Why should I have to "eventually" figure out how to get an S on a champion if i don't like playing as that champion? I'm going to play league anyway so why not be rewarded for playing champs I like instead of learning how to cheat the system and even throw a game?

Xion The XIV1 votes

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This is one champion. ONE BOX. How long did it take you to learn what it takes to get an S consistently on Skarner? Now do that exact same pointless routine for champs you don't like. Why should I have to "eventually" figure out how to get an S on a champion if i don't like playing as that champion? I'm going to play league anyway so why not be rewarded for playing champs I like instead of learning how to cheat the system and even throw a game?

You can only earn 4 chests a month or is it every 2 weeks never really cared. So what is the point of trying to say boxes should not be earned for people who get an S and not in your group. The entire point of the Mastery set up is to learn how to use your champion and rewarding you for when you do it right. Also why would you play a champion you don't like? There are 130+ champions in League atm so if you don't like a certain champion pick the next one.

Your entire explanation is like a man dying of starvation and is offered a sandwich but throws it back because he doesn't like mayo.

Namid S1 votes

So what is the point of trying to say boxes should not be earned for people who get an S and not in your group.

When did I say that? I was merely responding to your method of getting S ranks.

The entire point of the Mastery set up is to learn how to use your champion and rewarding you for when you do it right.

Yes and so when I do learn my champion right, why can't I use that champion to get more boxes since I'm going to be playing so much of it anyway?

There are 130+ champions in League atm so if you don't like a certain champion pick the next one.

I have played every champion in the game and I am terrible at them all, I told you I'm bad at league. There's a reason one tricks exist friend.

All I want is to not be penalized for wanting to get the most out of my time spent playing League, I don't want and also cant play 99% of champions well, so what I'm supposed to practice for hours until I finally learn how to get an S rank on a champ just so ill never play it again? Why? Answer that one question for me, why should anyone play league in a way that they wouldn't enjoy? Is that what it takes to get multiple chests? Playing League in a way you do not find fun?

Xion The XIV1 votes

Ok First off. The way to Get boxes the "Easier" way is to find your style of play. My style is I like Tank/Bruiser characters. After you find your type of style of play then you need to figure out what champions of that Pool you are willing to try.

Now After you narrow down that pool more you have 2 choices. You can either watch video's on that Champions game play, or you can either go into a Bot game/Live game/ Practice tool and see the abilities and the champion is the one for you.

After that you must find that same type of style in at least 2 roles. I will use me as an example. I like Jungle and Top as my primary roles. So for my Top I like Garen and Nasus. While Jungle I like Skarner and Rammus.

And in case I am ever forced to go into Support I like Alistar and Nautilus.

You can't just pick up a champion and go 30/1 your first time.

You are more then likely playing some games and getting tilted into not having fun and you will have games like that. I have had skarner games where I went 24/3, and I also had games where I go 3/14

hell I had a Rammus game recently where I went 23/6 and then Later on went 5/8 and got stomped into the ground.

In any game and even in Real life you must practice something to fully learn it. You can see a video of a Yasuo 1v5 a team and getting Multiple Pentas in the same game, problem is they know how to push their character and to capitalize on mistakes from experience.

Namid S1 votes

Look I'm kinda done arguing with you, it just seems to me your argument is "I had to do it so everyone has to" and I'm over it. Why should someone have to sacrifice fun for a chest when they could have fun and be rewarded for skill just by playing champs they already know they like.

And by the way, the Yasuo didn't get that good playing every single champ until he got an S rank, he played that well by playing pretty much ONLY Yasuo so thanks for agreeing with me.

Xion The XIV1 votes

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Look I'm kinda done arguing with you, it just seems to me your argument is "I had to do it so everyone has to" and I'm over it. Why should someone have to sacrifice fun for a chest when they could have fun and be rewarded for skill just by playing champs they already know they like.

And by the way, the Yasuo didn't get that good playing every single champ until he got an S rank, he played that well by playing pretty much ONLY Yasuo so thanks for agreeing with me.

See this is the problem with people who lose any type of debate throw away on any amount of information and only zone on 1 thing. I never meant the Stream Yasuo you are just trying to make it about him I am talking about Yasuos in general, but to each their own.

Your entire argument is I can leech off my premade team so why can't I leech off these random people to earn my chests.

I gave you the steps to get chests I explained them into detail on what you should to if you want chests. I gave you examples of what to do. But you are a leech so yea I agree I am done with this topic. You don't want to learn you just want free crap from other people's hard work. So good bye.

Namid S1 votes

That is not the point of my post. Check out my new thread and my updated philosophy on the topic if you want my point.

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/ur2VtTcB-making-people-play-new-champions-for-chests-creates-animosity-in-league

If you got the impression that I want random people to carry me then I beg of you, show me what I said that made you think that's what I meant. Where is the proof to your claim that I want random people to carry me? I BEG you, show me where I said anything along the lines of we should be able to leech.

Help me understand why you let your premade queue teammates get chests for you, but not random people, because it's obviously not feeling like people should earn them if their friends can easily unlock them.

This is the only thing you could even cite, and the context of this is purely making the point that Riot doesn't care if you work for the chests yourself or not. So please tell me where did I say that I wanted chests to be about leeching?

See this is the problem with people who lose any type of debate throw away on any amount of information and only zone on 1 thing. I never meant the Stream Yasuo you are just trying to make it about him I am talking about Yasuos in general, but to each their own.

You were pointing out an example of a person getting good at ONE champion, and I reminded you that for someone to get better at ONE champion they would play other champions less not more. Your nonsense saddens me.

You don't want to learn you just want free crap from other people's hard work. So good bye.

I want free crap from other people's hard work? I'm sorry that that's what you chose to perceive in order to make yourself sound justified for your petty and inconsistent arguments so let me clarify what I want. I want a system that will allow players to be rewarded not ONLY for learning other champions, but for displaying skill with the champions they have already chosen to get good at.

I can't wait to see the empty rhetoric you try to throw back at me if you do choose to respond again, but at this point it will be for nothing more than my personal amusement so spew idiocy and falsifications at your own risk.

Namid S1 votes

I never said for free did I? I said make it a plausible system for all types of players, not only the types who have hours to spare wasting just LEARNING a champion for the singular purpose of getting that one S ranking on a chest, but for the people who have time for one, MAYBE two games a day because they work and have lives. Getting 4-5 s ranks on a champion would be something plausible for anyone.

Tranoze1 votes

That is to reward veteran players more. And the way to get an S on all champion work the same except for support, it depend on CS/objective/and KDA, Some time you dont need to be good at specific champ to get an S, you need to understand the basic of the game and you can basically get S on any champion.

Namid S1 votes

Veteran players, are not adults now, is that what you're saying? And not everyone whose been playing for a long period of time is good enough to even understand basic game play. And yes it works the same for all but its based on how well other people play the champ not just "get x score and you get an s". My final thoughts, what exactly do you have against making it easier to get something that was designed to be a gift to the community? I'm not saying we need more chests, I'm not saying put more skin shards in chests, I'm purely saying myself along with quite a few people in the community aren't good enough to get an s with a new champion every week. What do you have against letting people get the chests that riots wants to give us easier?

DariusDemiurge1 votes

Get some friends, get carried four times a month.

Namid S1 votes

Yeah like people wanna play games well enough to get an S to watch me be useless on a first time champion pick. Real insightful of you.

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