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The Shyvana Change Makes Pre-6 Solo Dragon Now "Almost Impossible"... A Big Nerf

TheGrandAlliance·7/9/2015, 9:28:56 PM·1 votes·1,007 views

...call me a noob or whatever alas from what I was able to test with the nerf to her W she doesn't do enough DMG to Dragon now pre 6 (and even if you stack jungle buffs) and you die before you can kill it. I would call that a preeeeeety big nerf if a jungler cannot solo kill a dragon (as a nerf to map pressure) vs junglers who still can.

RIOT: "YEA EVERYONE USES item 3718 !!! SO WE MUST NERF ALL OTHER PLAYSTYLES!"

BTW Pre 6 you won't have enough gold for the above item so its "Shyvana buff", assuming that logic is even true, is irrelevant. Its like every time I start to "L2P" a new champion of mine and RIOT ALWAYS NERFS IT...

Some points to Mention from Below:

Alas even assuming there is a "way" now to solo dragon lvl 4-6... the point remains that now you have to buy "more stuff" then before to be able to do it: No more early lvl 3 Dragon kills... vs for example a champion such as Nunu. Now you have to be so far along in gold early game that you will therefore be around lvl 6 anyways before you can do Dragon... which is generally, especially LCS wise, a time that Dagon is focused upon already.

Therefore it is a NERF and a change to early gameplay jungle strategies of Shyvana .

Indeed it is so...

11 Comments

BackdoorPrincess7/10/2015, 9:28:50 AM3 votes

I mean i get dragon at level 4 every time idk what you're doing wrong

EndlessSorcerer7/12/2015, 2:18:49 AM2 votes

I've not had any issues soloing it at level 5 with Skirmisher's Sabre and Dagger. I just take a health potion and make sure I have smite up.

Abyssphere7/9/2015, 10:07:10 PM1 votes

The Shyvana nerf wasn't in the patch notes, are you certain it went through?

TheGrandAlliance7/9/2015, 10:09:33 PM1 votes

Yea it is/was.. in fact it is already in effect because it was in 5.13 but they forgot to put it in 5.13 notes supposedly.

Anyways here is the cut/paste:

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-513-notes

Whoops - we missed this in the original 5.13 notes. It is now documented. Sorry!

We'll level with you - just like Xin Zhao with Sated Devourer (context on both below!), Shyvana has shown in playtesting to be a universal nightmare. Since 5.11, the Half-Dragon's been tearing the jungle a new one and the prospect of letting the strongest and fastest on-hit centric out into a post-devourer world unscathed left us terrified. Like Xin's pre-emptive changes we're happy to revert these if necessary, but these kinds of precautions could be the difference between a really powerful champion and 'The Great Warwick Incident of Preseason 2015'. And no one wants that. ”

W - Burnout

DAMAGE PER SECOND: 20/35/50/65/80 ⇒ 20/33/45/58/70

BTW although this "small change looks small"... if you want to solo Dragon pre 6 (and esp without items) you need every DMG point you can get because you/dragon are like 1-3 hits from killing each other in general. Now she is just too week to solo kill Dragon even if you have most of the Devour items.

Droogzy7/12/2015, 2:43:41 AM1 votes

I think you need to look at your runes and masteries, I still have no problem with pre-6 solos despite the nerf. It's noticeably slower yes, but it's still doable.