Elise needs some attention, Riot.

Raxistaicho·Nov 7, 2014·3 votes·545 views

All of the nerfs she's been dealt in recent months went too far; she went from a top-tier Jungler to a champ that gets her users mocked for picking her. As you seem to think she's STILL one of the big Junglers, I decided that this needed to be brought to your attention.

Her pick and win rates are atrocious, the only thing she's good for is early ganking because she's useless in big team fights unless she gets ahead (which means she's a major liability in Solo Queue). Most of her damage comes out of her spider form, which has all the "durability" of any other mage character, which leaves her almost no choice but to build tanky because her scaling is so bad. Her only actual utility is a slow and narrow skillshot that is blocked by minions.

I understand that she was once overpowered, but she's seriously weak now and needs some buffs to get back into usable territory again.

12 Comments

TheFallenShawNov 7, 20143 votes

I'd like to see her get a small buff to certian areas, first on my list would be her Repel.

Instead of needing a target how about she would be able to just pick a spot? I see no reason if she can go up there for her to need an actual target to come down on otherwise she falls right back where she went up. And it could prob use some damage to it since she is decending on an enemy. Small damage maybe but some damage none the less. Something like

10(+5 per spiderling)/15(+10 per spiderling)/20(+15 per spiderling)/25(+15 per spiderling) this would allow better scalling and ganks late game.

Spiderlings movement speed should = elise's

Spider form get bonus armor (10-20ish) attack speed (10%) magic resist (10-20ish)

Spiderlings buff should scale off of elise's attack speed

Some would say scaleing the spiderlings attack speed off hers makes her op but here's the thing, hydra's, static shivs, sunfire capes... ect pretty much are always used every game and they kill spiderlings like crazy.

And shouldnt spider form poison targets just saying she's a flipping spider? I know w heals her but venom doesnt heal it causes damage over time. Notice i said poison not the stupid useless grievious wounds practially useless mechanic in the game.

RaxistaichoNov 7, 20142 votes

She actually used to get a durability buff in spider form, but that was one of the nerfs she got.

Zeus JukemNov 8, 20141 votes

also if i'm not mistaken her spiderlings already move faster than champs do, even with boot

RaxistaichoNov 8, 20141 votes

Yeah her spiderlings are actually quite fast at 370 movement speed. The issue is more that they follow behind Elise so it doesn't look like they are.

OneSlickPhonyNov 8, 20141 votes

Last time I played Elise, I couldn't 1v1 Golems at level 1.

I'm doing it wrong. Like, really wrong...

RaxistaichoNov 8, 20141 votes

It shouldn't be that tough. Just move away after attacking an enemy so they'll be more likely to hit your spiderlings instead of you.

JustBoneBrookNov 8, 20141 votes

indees she do

HavenscytheNov 8, 20141 votes

I don't really feel like she needs or is going to get any changes. On the PBE she is weak in the new jungle and there are a handful of other champions that are crying for some attention and they never receive it.

RaxistaichoNov 8, 20141 votes

I don't see how she can not need changes when you just said she's weak in the new jungle.

HavenscytheNov 8, 20141 votes

She's 'weaker' in the new jungle, yet 50% of other junglers are completely unable to jungle in the new jungle. Let Riot attend to those other junglers before they tamper with Elise.

RaxistaichoNov 8, 20141 votes

Oh, I see your point.