You kill annie then immediately die after..?
Ok.. Nice mage update
Ok.. Nice mage update
It's always been incredibly easy to kill for me.
It's something that differentiates her from other mages, sorry that you dislike difference.
It's always been incredibly easy to kill for me.
It's something that differentiates her from other mages, sorry that you dislike difference.
Yes kill her then immediately die after
Idk, I usually try to not have stupidly low health or at least have an escape plan when I kill Annie.
CC the bear Mobility Stop running and just turn and kill it It's literally no different from Sion's passive except Annie has to drop her ult for it to work
it's pretty unlikely to still have any spells up after making a kill.
The difference is that there is no delay like
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CC the bear
Ok DONT cc annie, cc the bear. Gotchu
Mobility
So dont play half the mid lane roster
Stop running and just turn and kill it
So let a bear with sunfire cape just auto me ok
It's literally no different from Sion's passive except Annie has to drop her ult for it to work
Except sion doesnt get 300% movement speed
build MR and HP and you shouldnt die ... oh wait building def vs a champ isnt consider viable counter play my bad
im stupid
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build MR and HP and you shouldnt die ... oh wait building def vs a champ isnt consider viable counter play my bad
im stupid
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Yes let me build
and
and see how much that helps me when she grabs void staff
so she runs armor runes and builds
vs ad soo why isnt it viable to build vs her burst and ap?
oh there is

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so she runs armor runes and builds
vs ad soo why isnt it viable to build vs her burst and ap?
oh there is
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No man you're right. Let me rush a banshees veil in lane against annie 100%
so vs an ap burst or high damage lane/nuke why not run hp seals and mr blues to be safe for early game rush into
and she shouldnt be able to kill you then you dont give her an advantage and she dont snowball..
annie has always been in the game and has always had the same nuke kit .. it what she does... she can only flash ult you when flash is off cd... learn how to make her blow it to save her own life... her stun is a passive that she has to use 4 spells to get her ult an aoe effect not a targeted spell and you can run away from it.
stop thinking you can pick whatever you want blindly and build however you want blindly and be able to win...
the entire game is built around match ups/ counter picks/builds, and counter team comps..
if a team is going for one turret, push another ... they go for drag , take baron...
it is every game all game... either learn to adapt or forever be dumb
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so vs an ap burst or high damage lane/nuke why not run hp seals and mr blues to be safe for early game rush into
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and she shouldnt be able to kill you then you dont give her an advantage and she dont snowball..
annie has always been in the game and has always had the same nuke kit .. it what she does... she can only flash ult you when flash is off cd... learn how to make her blow it to save her own life... her stun is a passive that she has to use 4 spells to get her ult an aoe effect not a targeted spell and you can run away from it.
stop thinking you can pick whatever you want blindly and build however you want blindly and be able to win...
the entire game is built around match ups/ counter picks/builds, and counter team comps..
if a team is going for one turret, push another ... they go for drag , take baron...
it is every game all game... either learn to adapt or forever be dumb
Do you agree with the veigar ult rework
what wrong with it?
use to his ult scaled off enemy's ap
now it scales off missing hp as an execute nuke
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what wrong with it?
use to his ult scaled off enemy's ap
now it scales off missing hp as an execute nuke
i didnt say anything was wrong with it im asking you if you think changing it from enemy AP to % missing health is a good idea
it actually allows for more counter play cuz you can pick ap into him and not be as punished for it
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it actually allows for more counter play cuz you can pick ap into him and not be as punished for it
Why are you dodging the question?
i asked if you think its a good idea.
i didnt dodge i answered it... i said the rework adds for more counter play...
for somehow from that you werent able to conceive or comprehend that by that statement "allowing for more counter play" as something good is an issue with you
not me
do you not think ?
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i didnt dodge i answered it... i said the rework adds for more counter play...
for somehow from that you werent able to conceive or comprehend that by that statement "allowing for more counter play" as something good is an issue with you
not me
do you not think ?
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You sound like you work at CNN.
Its a yes or no question so answer it.
Do you think the veigar ult change was good
and i replied why and how it s good therefore implying and stating that it was a good change
how is that hard to understand
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and i replied why and how it s good therefore implying and stating that it was a good change
how is that hard to understand
Veigars ult was changed for one reason as stated by the rioters at the time of development.
The reason was it punished other people for doing good. If le blanc killed veigar and got fed, veigar would hit her harder.
It was an unhealthy stat check.
Annie follows the same concept. You are punished for doing good and killing said champion.
With sion the same frustration comes, except theres a huge delay to him coming back to life and hitting you. Sion also doesnt gain the massive Movement speed as tibbers does.
So by you saying Veigars ult change was a good idea because it promoted a healthier game style, yet argue against annie saying the opposite, it just makes you look extremely hypocritical.
I understand there is counterplay to annie more than most champions and what not and you can itemize. Actually most of my deaths from annie are from bad positioning if we want to be honest.
But i just wanted to show you the same reason people complain about annie, is why riot changed Veigars ult.
wrong.. viegars old ult punished you for playing ap into him.... annies ult does nothing of that nature... the made it were his ult allowed for more champs to be played into him instead of just the ad assassins.
biggest counters to viegar pre rework was

now any ap champ with high burst and gap close can be played into him...

Yes.
He thinks it was a good idea.
Yes.
Clear enough for you?
Yes.
Tibbers is going to just auto you anyway because of how fast it is. Turn and kill it and you won't be taking any more damage than if you didn't turn. If you're going to run, at least hit it while you're running away. Kiting it and attacking it is the best way to kill it if you don't have anything leftover and you're ranged because you can hit it while dodging damage.
Make it lose vision of you.
Do ANYTHING except outright try to outrun it. As you said, it gets 300% movement speed. It will catch you. However, it's extremely squishy and extremely easy to kill if you just turn.
/salt
1 thing that kind of works is walking into a brush so it stops attacking you but other than that...
Kite to brush.