This Clip from "A twisted fate" shows how fucking braindead tanks shit on skilled champions like kat

destroyer22719··2 votes·1,456 views

Look at poor Katarina working her ass off and trying her hardest while fucking Garen doesn't even feel her daggers. Kids, is this fair? How brain-dead tanks have the right to do no shit because they're so tanky and then there's assassins and bruisers who work hard get nothing in return? This is why I'm fucking pissed at the tank buffs. Why does Riot overtreat tanks and nerf a champion like Camille who you can play viably and is always there for you if you wanna be a good boy and not play tank? Just nerf duskblade. Like increase it to 3K or something it reallly isn't that hard.

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AlienPrimate8 votes

Garen tank

[sg-miss-fortune]

destroyer227191 votes

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Garen tank

[sg-miss-fortune]

Garen is a tank (juggernaut to be exact) ask his passive.

Ralanr5 votes

Juggernauts are a subclass of Fighters and are actually the closest successor to the identity of Bruisers in league.

destroyer227191 votes

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Juggernauts are a subclass of Fighters and are actually the closest successor to the identity of Bruisers in league.

Garen is still has the tank aspects juggernaut or bruiser. It says in in the free champion rotation. https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/champions-skins/free-rotation/new-free-champion-rotation-taric-jhin-fizz-and-more

Ralanr3 votes

Having tank like qualities doesn’t actually make a champion a tank though, that’s like saying any fighter who has easy to hit hard CC is a tank because of that.

Garen is more of a bruiser/juggernaut than a tank. Sure, he’s the most defensive of them, but that doesn’t mean he’s a tank.

destroyer227191 votes

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Having tank like qualities doesn’t actually make a champion a tank though, that’s like saying any fighter who has easy to hit hard CC is a tank because of that.

Garen is more of a bruiser/juggernaut than a tank. Sure, he’s the most defensive of them, but that doesn’t mean he’s a tank.

It says it according to riot themselves. Now I will say that I was shocked to hear that Nunu was actually a Support/Bruiser and not a tank but nonetheless if it says something on RIots official site then its gotta be true.

Ralanr1 votes

https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/gameplay/taking-another-look-subclasses

The old primary/secondary system is pretty unreliable and shouldn’t be taken seriously.

destroyer227191 votes

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https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/gameplay/taking-another-look-subclasses

The old primary/secondary system is pretty unreliable and shouldn’t be taken seriously.

If they reveal the rotation ahead of times then you'd think somebody would go "wait, why does it say Xerath is an assassin?" when writing it before it was released. They'd been working well ahead of times of their due date (Tuesday)

Ralanr1 votes

What?

The primary and secondary class system that Riot has us outdated. Like most of the main site.

destroyer227191 votes

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What?

The primary and secondary class system that Riot has us outdated. Like most of the main site.

well, if enough people could inflate Pyke hype with that sick teaser then I'm sure 1 person can update it in like a couple hours or less.

Ralanr1 votes

Different departments though honestly the main site needs some updates and changes.

DrCyanide1 votes

They aren't manually writing that part, it's all generated by what's in the database and the database still has him listed as a Mage/Assassin.

destroyer227191 votes

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They aren't manually writing that part, it's all generated by what's in the database and the database still has him listed as a Mage/Assassin.

Well I'm sure someone wrote "assassin - secondary" maybe much earlier than I thought but still, a brain was behind it.

DrCyanide4 votes

You mean the tag system that hasn't been updated since the game first came out? The same tag system that lists Xerath as an Assassin?

destroyer227191 votes

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You mean the tag system that hasn't been updated since the game first came out? The same tag system that lists Xerath as an Assassin?

I thought quinn was a marksman assassin not marksman bruiser.

DrCyanide1 votes

Like I said, the tag system isn't really up-to-date. I totally agree with you that Quinn feels more like an Assassin than a Fighter though.

AlienPrimate1 votes

Shyvana "passive gives armor and mr so she's a tank"

MonkeyKing "passive gives armor and mr so he's a tank"

Akali "passive gives healing so she's a tank"

Vladimir "passive gives health so he's a tank"

Morgana "passive gives healing so she's a tank"

Orianna "passive enhances auto attacks so she's a marksman"

Teemo "passive gives invisibility so he's an assassin"

Yasuo "passive gives a shield so he's a tank"

Ziggs "passive enhances auto attacks so he's a marksman"

destroyer227191 votes

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Shyvana "passive gives armor and mr so she's a tank"

MonkeyKing "passive gives armor and mr so he's a tank"

Akali "passive gives healing so she's a tank"

Vladimir "passive gives health so he's a tank"

Morgana "passive gives healing so she's a tank"

Orianna "passive enhances auto attacks so she's a marksman"

Teemo "passive gives invisibility so he's an assassin"

Yasuo "passive gives a shield so he's a tank"

Ziggs "passive enhances auto attacks so he's a marksman"

okay, first of all, getting a shield or heal isn't tank. its mostly support or sustain champion that has them. So execute Morg and Yass. Vlad is well, I guess a mix of damage and health, you can certainly say he gets "tanky" when he gets items like item 3165 item 3029item 3135 item 3152 and last but not least item 3089. Others you make a point. But Garen's passive actuallly heals for a fuck ton. Considering its a item 3083 and no requirements of max HP or gold.

Firebeard5 votes

What should we take from this? 1: Nothing, because the cinematic was not designed to mirror in game matchups to any real degree. 2: Assassins shouldn't fight full hp tanks. Plain and simple, unless you are massively ahead. 3: This post is a bad meme in the wrong section.

destroyer227191 votes

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What should we take from this? 1: Nothing, because the cinematic was not designed to mirror in game matchups to any real degree. 2: Assassins shouldn't fight full hp tanks. Plain and simple, unless you are massively ahead. 3: This post is a bad meme in the wrong section.

This is a bit over complecated but all I'm simply saying is that if Rito does feel like damage is high then just nerf damage and not buff tanks. I hate the tank meta.

DrCyanide4 votes

If Garen is a tank then you must think Katarina is a support.

destroyer227191 votes

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If Garen is a tank then you must think Katarina is a support.

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please tell me this is a troll post.

Firebeard1 votes

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If Garen is a tank then you must think Katarina is a support.

What is Garen? I only play marksmen, and just write off Garen as a tank unless they are building damage. I don't think he's a juggernaut, and he has too much hp usually to call him a bruiser.

destroyer227191 votes

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What is Garen? I only play marksmen, and just write off Garen as a tank unless they are building damage. I don't think he's a juggernaut, and he has too much hp usually to call him a bruiser.

Bruh, garen is a champ that everyone plays as a starter (along with ashe) I'm not saying braindead champs are bad. I'm saying the reward from a braindead champ should never outweigh the skill of a lane the opponent playing champions WITH skill.

destroyer227193 votes

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What is Garen? I only play marksmen, and just write off Garen as a tank unless they are building damage. I don't think he's a juggernaut, and he has too much hp usually to call him a bruiser.

Garen is a juggernaut BTW (along with Mord and Darius)

destroyer227191 votes

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If Garen is a tank then you must think Katarina is a support.

Kids, this is stupidity at its peak

DearPear1 votes

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Kids, this is stupidity at its peak

Hey, you're leading the way.

S0kaX3 votes

please tell me this is a troll post.

Firebeard3 votes

You're casting a good amount of flame in the comments. Juggernauts and tanks are two different, though fairly close classes. Mordekaiser is a juggernaut, but he isn't a tank. A tank will provide CC/utility to a team while a juggernaut will be damage focused. Shouldn't flame people for correcting you/be too deep into your own opinion that you can't see the truth in others. Ignorance is harmful only to those afflicted.

destroyer227191 votes

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You're casting a good amount of flame in the comments. Juggernauts and tanks are two different, though fairly close classes. Mordekaiser is a juggernaut, but he isn't a tank. A tank will provide CC/utility to a team while a juggernaut will be damage focused. Shouldn't flame people for correcting you/be too deep into your own opinion that you can't see the truth in others. Ignorance is harmful only to those afflicted.

Yes, I think you're right I"m just too angry at how the balance team handles things these days. Tanks too strong? Nerf Camille. Nerf Supports. Nerf Marksman.

AlienPrimate3 votes

Let's look at top lane champion popularity by rank

  1. Garen - fighter
  2. Darius - fighter
  3. Riven - fighter
  4. Gangplank - fighter
  5. Jax - fighter
  6. Fiora - fighter
  7. Camille - fighter
  8. Quinn - marksmen
  9. Yasuo - fighter
  10. Aatrox - fighter
  11. Renekton -fighter
  12. Irelia - fighter
  13. Malphite - tank

The first 12 make up 77% of top lane picks and all but Quinn are fighters.

SithesisLord1 votes

Nerf Camille.

That E damage nerf did literally nothing to bring her down in power, fix why E-max was and still is a thing or encourage Q-maxing again.

tempname1305831 votes

ok.

lets stop pretending garen isnt tankier than he should be

and lets also stop pretending katarina should be able to duel garen

HalcyonDweller1 votes

What does a cinematic have to do with game balance?

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