Rengar builds 
and suddenly any ap assassin is automatically outclassed. So thanks for that i guess. Go ahead and buff talon 6 more times and forget that aps want to be able to play too.
Hyquiem1 votesExcept you can invade a rengar early and destroy him. Rengar isn’t strong until lvl 6. Unlike zed where his shadows rest the dusk blade passive. IMO the real thing that makes assasins broke in general isn’t how much stronger electrocute is then thunderlords..
Infernape1 votesI just want proper AP assassin itemisation (or even a melee only AP item for champs like Diana), but alas that will never happen.
Khristophoros1 voteslichbane + 1 of the hextech items is literally more burst than duskblade + stormrazor lmao
Lunar ArcS1 votesThats actually, incorrect. Not to mention hextech items have cooldowns. Dusk and stormrazor do not
Khristophoros1 votesAll 3 of the hextechs deal higher damage than Duskblade by a LOT.
Lichbane definitely deals more than Stormrazor in a non-crit build.
Lunar ArcS1 votes
does like 300 damage MAX with a 40 sec cd.
Duskblade has no cd.
Gunblade does about 300 or so, It's also more expensive also on a 40 sec cd.
Pretty much nobody builds glp but ill humor you. With 1000 ap, glp will do about 400 maximum. Thats the highest it will ever go, and considering who it is built on it will really only ever hover a 250 damage area.
Duskblade maxed does 200 damage, no cd. So think of how someone can jump in, say wukong, get out, go back in for 400 damage just from duskblade in a lapse of 10 seconds.
Now we move to stormrazor. Lich and Storm both cost the same. Storm- AA based, no need to use an ability with a cd of 3 seconds.
Let's just do some math here, 600 ad will have a 900 damage auto just from stormrazor.
Let's say an ap champion has 1k ap Lichbane will proc 500 damage for getting the auto off.
so 300+800=1100 for the raw ap from two items. Yes?
900+200=1100 for raw ad, and considering duskblade is SPAMMABLE it is presumably more. Did this clear that up or do i break it down more
Khristophoros1 votesYour comparison for burst is wrong. You forgot that the AP items actually add AP. So if you're including the AD champ's full autoattack dmg they built up with AD items, you have to include all of the AP the AP champ has from items with their ratios for 1 rotation. And at that point you have to include the AD champ's AD ratios from skills too.
saltran1 votesPlease, remove the Gameplay Boards I'm begging you.