So unpopular opinion, akali isnt broken.

Lunar ArcS·Aug 22, 2018·24 votes·7,827 views

Her cds are really high for an assassin. Note that her wr has been mid to low 40s since she came out. People complain about her damage as if her entire kit isnt skill shot based asides from passive which only procs via skillshot

Meanwhile LB point click deletes Talon has shorter cds and a bit more burst imo. Zed doesn't even have to hit half his kit but w.e

Like people complain about akali when honestly asides from kat who is absolute dogshit rn she's in an okay/underwhelming spot.

28 Comments

OleandervineAug 22, 20184 votes

Akali isn't broken, I'll agree. Her Shroud IS broken though. It needs to drop this bullshit where it cease turret fire, and then it'll be fine.

ParoeAug 22, 20188 votes

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Akali isn't broken, I'll agree. Her Shroud IS broken though. It needs to drop this bullshit where it cease turret fire, and then it'll be fine.

How is a dive tool broken? Its got counterplay up the wazoo.

OleandervineAug 22, 20187 votes

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How is a dive tool broken? Its got counterplay up the wazoo.

She's an assassin, not a diver. She doesn't need a dive tool, especially one that allows her to disregard enemy towers almost completely. It also disregards core game elements that shouldn't be violated - that turrets should be able to see and shoot everything in their vicinity that isn't untargettable (such as under Zhonya or Bard Ult).

DuskDaUmbreonAug 22, 20187 votes

Most assassins can dive anyways, and far better than her, due to having enough mobility to get in and out.

Also, need I remind you that it's not just stasis that stops turret shots, but Fizz's E, Pantheon's passive (which he can reset with his leap), Fiora's W, Yi's Q...And all of these let them dodge turret shots, rather than just not have turret target them. Akali'd still take one shot at the minimum in a dive. Those guys? They theoretically don't even need to take that much.

"Ignoring turret shots" is hardly a new concept. Akali just goes about it a very different way.

ParoeAug 22, 20182 votes

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She's an assassin, not a diver. She doesn't need a dive tool, especially one that allows her to disregard enemy towers almost completely. It also disregards core game elements that shouldn't be violated - that turrets should be able to see and shoot everything in their vicinity that isn't untargettable (such as under Zhonya or Bard Ult).

Youre... Wrong. Akali is a diver. Divers are champions with an Assassination pattern (They CAN assassinate) but lack the hyper mobility of a true assassin. Rengar is also a Diver... Akali might have more forward mobility, but shes still a diver.

Further, Akalis smokescreen DOES make her untargetable. Just not invincible. She still gets hit by AoEs, unlike other champions with similar mechanics like Fizz.

theChibiTinaAug 22, 20181 votes

I think that's fine. She's not the only champion with an ability that gives untargetable status. If anything they should give back control wards and true sight. That has always been the counter to stealth and they just up and took it away on hers for no good reason.

mack9112Aug 23, 20183 votes

She has plenty of counter play to work with a pretty successful rework in my opinion

SalamencęAug 23, 20183 votes

She's not broken, her shroud is.

LacerationAug 22, 20182 votes

Zed doesn't even have to hit half his kit but w.e

zed literally has to hit everything to get a kill and even then barrier can stop it

Somebody Love MeAug 22, 20182 votes

Zed would be considered fine if Duskblade didn't exist, and if the "compensation" buffs for duskblade didn't happen.

He would be so much easier to balance correctly if that stupid item didn't exist.

stone the blacksAug 22, 20182 votes

a toxic kit that is innately unfun to even have the displeasure of interacting with does not mean it is broken, numbers make something broken some examples can be: Kalista Yasuo Akali Vladimir Zoe all have their issues and are extremely hard to balance, and even when balanced* they still suck to play against with how their gameplay flows [cant touch me even, can kill me ever, insta kill you even if im 0/15]

NaalithAug 23, 20184 votes

It's funny because I think that other than Yasuo or Zoe, Aurelion Sol is more unfun than anyone in that list and he's your summoner name. No matter what his numbers are he just autopushes and roams or shits on you you with constant damage and unless you have multiple mobility spells or the power to kill him. Admittedly he is weak right now, but losing to an Aurelion Sol pisses me off more than any of those champions.

Dorans PantsAug 23, 20181 votes

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a toxic kit that is innately unfun to even have the displeasure of interacting with does not mean it is broken, numbers make something broken some examples can be: all have their issues and are extremely hard to balance, and even when balanced* they still suck to play against with how their gameplay flows [cant touch me even, can kill me ever, insta kill you even if im 0/15]

don´t know why this got downvoted so much. Often, I would rather play against a strong champion than a weak and frustrating one.

Anin777Aug 22, 20182 votes

After player her for about 5 normal/experimental games, I've noticed something. You need to manage her Q or you'll be useless. You also have to weave in her passive to gain max dmg potential. If you gain a fair amount of mastery, you'll be successful at silver-gold games. If you could put in 50-100 games, you'll probably be unstoppable in plat. Takes a while to learn and master.

ParoeAug 22, 20181 votes

Honestly Akali has this wierd power curve where she needs her lichbane to actually hurt. Shes quite balanced in the rift, but in the other game modes? Shes quite strong.

DuskDaUmbreonAug 22, 20182 votes

Somewhat ionically, she's actually the worst champion by winrate in Nexus Blitz.

Somebody Love MeAug 22, 20181 votes

She's fine.

Her damage is slow to put out and requires unique movement (in and out) to maximize.

She also has counterplay up the ass. However, she synergizes really well with junglers, and in coordinated gameplay, she can execute dives and other stuff really well, which not many other assassins can say.

Akali is SO HOTAug 23, 20181 votes

Lunar ArcSAug 23, 20181 votes

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TokogawarufAug 23, 20181 votes

In all honesty i cant even start to argue, since i wasn´t able to even play against or with her AT ALL until now.

For some reason i had to say this.

I haven´t played a since game where akali was present

UnvictusAug 23, 20181 votes

I totally agree, especially how you brought up the fact that her whole kit is skill shots. I can see how some people might find her shrowd frustrating, but she seems to be in a pretty good spot after the dust begins to settle after her rework.

The part about Kat being dogshit actually made me lol cause it’s true. She gets outperformed by pretty much every other assassin. I love her rework but every other assassin got their low burst windows back meanwhile she still has such a delay. My favorite part about her rework is that they made her burst conditional as well in the form of dagger pickups, requiring the player to actually have skill. I think they need reduce the time her daggers take to drop, probably as the game goes because it’s so hard for her to actually do anything in the late game without getting bursted first.

AtmosphereAug 23, 20181 votes

Her kit is balanced aside from her W. Give her Q, E, and passive (her R is fine as is) more damage and remove the obscure bullshit and she'll be fine. As it stands, she's just an annoyance. The minute her W goes down, all interaction is removed. She just tries to proc passive and auto you as much as possible, then runs away until her W comes back up.

ZaFishboneAug 23, 20181 votes

Akali definitely has some drawbacks. Her Q and E have relatively short ranges and her E also has travel time. Basically without her ulti, which has a fairly long CD, especially at lower ranks, her engage range is relatively short. She needs to use her high energy cost Q both to farm and to harass and deal damage during fights, so if you make her miss some of them then her damage will be much lower. And as for her shroud, it is the one ability that makes her the only champion in game who plays like an actual ASSASSIN, not like an anime ninja, which is what most other "assassins" are.

Mizuhashi ParuAug 23, 20181 votes

Not broken but buggy as heck, especially her 2. R. However, I think they should slightly lower the execute base damage and instead increase Q width by 5 to 10 units left to right.

T Captain TAug 23, 20181 votes

I don't think anything about her kit is broken at all besides her shroud. If you want to keep her from getting targeted by champions then that's fine IMO but the fact that it could also ignore turret hits is absurd.

Child of the PitAug 23, 20181 votes

Meanwhile LB point click deletes Talon has shorter cds and a bit more burst imo. Zed doesn't even have to hit half his kit but w.e

The state of other champions being in a broken spot, doesn't undermine ones self state of being broken.

Just because others are known liars, it doesn't mean lying yourself won't make you a liar.

Child of the PitAug 23, 20181 votes

The only really broken elements right now about her kit are her W, and the micro stun about her ult, it is an unnecesarry tool to interupt many spells or other stuff that really has no place in this kit.