The state of last whisper builds

forresto··1 votes·327 views

So, I was thinking about the items last whisper builds into, and realized that both of them seem to be geared towards adcs. I think one of the biggest things riot could do to get AD assassins back into the game is make a last whisper item geared towards assassins. What do you guys think?

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Dominick Destine2 votes

Assassins seem to benefit more from Black Cleaver.

Black Cleaver is in a good spot.

forresto1 votes

that makes sense actually. I guess it's just a matter of putting out more heavy AD items that aren't crit focused.

2 Weezy Baby1 votes

You're wrong. Dominik's regards.

forresto1 votes

if you're an assassin then you don't really benefit from it because you shouldn't be targeting people tanky enough to trigger it. ADC's benefit because they have to hit whoever's nearby.

2 Weezy Baby1 votes

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if you're an assassin then you don't really benefit from it because you shouldn't be targeting people tanky enough to trigger it. ADC's benefit because they have to hit whoever's nearby.

Then why would they need last whisper... there are plenty of other items that give sufficient armor pen to kill someone who's not a tank.

forresto1 votes

the 40% armor pen is actually higher than any of the flat armor pens. late game, squishy champs scale to about 60ish natural armor. 40% of 60 = 24. throw in items like guardian angel, or hourglass, and last whisper is vital to maximizing damage late game. the problem i have is that while the armor pen bonus is good, the secondary effects dont really benefit the main role of assassins which is to assassinate squishies.

2 Weezy Baby1 votes

{quoted}

the 40% armor pen is actually higher than any of the flat armor pens. late game, squishy champs scale to about 60ish natural armor. 40% of 60 = 24. throw in items like guardian angel, or hourglass, and last whisper is vital to maximizing damage late game. the problem i have is that while the armor pen bonus is good, the secondary effects dont really benefit the main role of assassins which is to assassinate squishies.

there are plenty of other items that give sufficient armor pen to kill someone who's not a tank.

Edit-literally from my previous post.

forresto1 votes

ok well everyone is talking about how ad assassins are poorly itemized right now, I was putting my 2 cents in about what could be done about that. since assassins shouldn't be fighting tanks, and the enemy shouldn't be alive after to worry about grievous wounds, my point was that providing an assassin focused item could help to fix that problem.

2 Weezy Baby1 votes

{quoted}

ok well everyone is talking about how ad assassins are poorly itemized right now, I was putting my 2 cents in about what could be done about that. since assassins shouldn't be fighting tanks, and the enemy shouldn't be alive after to worry about grievous wounds, my point was that providing an assassin focused item could help to fix that problem.

There are many items that are assassin focused.....basically all AD items...

forresto1 votes

Hey don't look at me, I'm following what the rioters have said about how they feel AD assassin itemization is in a bad place right now. I was just suggesting something I thought would help that.

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