Don’t nerf HP on relic shield...

GigglesO··2 votes·395 views

Nerf the on hit gold to like 3. Give 5 bonus gold to the person with the relic shield whenever gold is shared.

Make no heal for ranged champions, and make it so that the person that the gold is shared to doesn’t get the +5 gold.

This stops adc abuse and GP abuse without hurting the defense of melee users in Bot. Nerfing the hp isn’t going to do shit for the people abusing the GOLD GEN from poking.

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Ahristocats2 votes

so how is nerfing the gold generation on passive

is going to stop kench alistar and braum from ruining games?

and where did you see adcs building relic shield btw?

Hethalean2 votes

A few patches ago ADCs did. I'm not sure Kench, Alistar, or Braum (21st, 4th, 8th best performing support) are 'ruining games' since Janna, Lulu, and Nami (1st, 2nd, and 3rd best performing) are already 'ruining more games' if you count just winning as ruining the game.

I mean a support doing his job isn't ruining games. I know it sounds way better if you say they're ruining games, but I'm just not convinced that they are really warping any meta since it seems to be enchanter supports atm.

Finally, relic shield is used on mor ethan just Kench, Alistar, and Braum. Let's just accept for the sake of debate that they are ruining games. It would make more sense to nerf those champions individually than a more global nerf to supports like: Thresh Leona Rammus (I only really see Alicopter play this one tbf).

That being said GP is the real reason that Relic shield is getting nerfed. He's just abusing it top lane for the HP, HP regen, and the bandit passive on Q / exploding barrels for more gold.

Ahristocats2 votes

i agree for sure that relic should not be nerfed because of braum ali and kench

but this is riot's decision

and those picks have almost 100% pick/ban above master tier and in lcs and since i play the game in master tier and above i'm happy that those are being nerfed

as a thresh 2ndary main however i know that this is a shitty change they should just nerf braum kench taric and ali directly

Hethalean1 votes

Yeah, I don't play that high of ELO I guess. I never really put in the time needed (not that I could I guess. idk i have lots to improve on) I love Thresh myself. I hope that they'll follow through on their promise and give him HP buffs like I thought they mentioned somewhere.

Oleandervine1 votes

I would rather they tinker with the kits to make them a little less oppressive or more niche (I'm loathe to say this as Taric main, though). All 4 (Taric, Braum, Alistar, Kench) pick up speed about mid game, once they get some items under their belts, so nerfing the HP on the support items isn't going to put much of a ding in them, since that matters more early game.

GigglesO1 votes

You should remember that they don't necessarily balance for challenger. They balance for high plat -> somewhere up to diamond.

Oleandervine2 votes

Yet another reason why Riot needs to bind certain starting items to ROLES. If we could actually swap roles, since roles would mean something, that means we could do things like bind the jungle items to "Jungler" instead of smite (no more losing due to smiteless junglers being dumpstered by the not having smite!) and bind the 3 gold income items to "Support" to STOP ALL OF THE FUCKING ABUSE CASES THAT HAVE BEEN RAMPING UP FOR YEARS NOW.

Hethalean1 votes

Yeah, I agree that they make items designed for roles (support income items, and jungler items) but won't BIND them to that role which then create issues. I mean I get why they are loath to bind items to roles. However, jungler items and support income items are special cases. Nasus and Gp wouldn't make Klepto as big of a deal if they couldn't build it. :/ That and I'm not sure how you'd do support items with blind pick at least.

Oleandervine1 votes

Simple. Get rid of blind pick. Or, have a special role selection at the end of blind pick.

Hethalean1 votes

In blind pick as you lock in your champion, you have another drop down for what role (that is left anyway) that your'e taking?

Oleandervine1 votes

Sure, whatever they could implement that makes it work.

chipndip11 votes

Tank supports literally do not die in lane. What's the point in hitting them when they're just so resilient?

Whole meta's being ran over by 'em atm. They're just really safe in most situations with all that hp.

Sukishoo1 votes

ADCs don't build Relic anymore. If they do they are wasting space.

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