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5.5 Is Something To Look Forward To

Volt Cruelerz··9 votes·1,873 views
2/27 PBE Update

I've made my opposition to the particular contents of the last couple patches loud and clear, but I would like to say that 5.5 is really looking like it'll be good.

  • Azir W range buff (fellow Azir mains rejoice!)
  • Gragas buffs
  • Lissandra Q damage nerf
  • Nautilus buffs
  • Nidalee nerfs
  • Skarner buffs
  • Trist buff
  • Urgot buff
  • Volibear buff
  • Xin Zhao buff
  • Vi nerf
  • Zac buff
  • Gromp's poison armor now scales on bonus health

And last but certainly not least, Juggernaut enchantment replaced with Cinderhulk, an enchantment that is the Rabadon's Deathcap of tank items. It also has an aura similar to Sunfire Cape.

I am very much looking forward to these changes. I know I've been critical lately of Riot's decisions, but I am not critical of this.

Yes, there are some things that aren't ideal. Bumping up Azir's range is just going to buff him. If you want to stop him from being a lane bully, up his Q cooldown at low levels. Urgot will still probably be garbage. Cinderhulk makes me wonder why lane tanks don't have their own deathcap item. But even though these changes don't solve everything, they do improve the situation.

22 Comments

SecretAgentHulk3 votes

Now that you put it like that, why don't laning tanks have a Rabadon's of tank items? Mages have Rabadon's, and AD's have crit (Shiv and arguably Bloodthirster), but what do tanks have?

Volt Cruelerz1 votes

raw additive stats? I agree that lane tanks should get something.

Wheatloaf1 votes

It's a question of income. Will lane tanks be getting enough more gold than jungle tanks to justify them not getting a similar scaling item? There's the potential there to just flat-out make tanks better in a lane (again).

SecretAgentHulk1 votes

It's not jungle tanks vs lane tanks so much as it is scaling mage item (Rabadon's) vs %scaling AD stat (crit) vs %scaling tank idea (nonexistent, arguably armor/MR I guess).

Wheatloaf1 votes

Oh. I read it as "why do jungle tanks get a % bonus hp item, but not lane tanks?"

SecretAgentHulk1 votes

Perhaps it could be better phrased "why is there not an all-purpose health-scaling tank item?" Why does a tank have to go into the jungle to get one?

Wheatloaf2 votes

Then I'll restate my argument that junglers have a lower gold income than laners, and thus need a different sort of item. I doubt they could properly balance a single one of this type of item for both income levels.

SecretAgentHulk1 votes

I understand your argument this time! Lol, because it's exactly what you said before.

However, I don't think it would be difficult to balance at all. It just needs to be a unique named passive like Spellblade. Spellblade, depending on what item you have (Sheen, TriForce, Lich Bane, Iceborn Gauntlets), grants 75-200% bonus AD on next hit with, again depending on item, possible AP scaling or an AoE slow.

If it ends up being something that needs to be different on laners vs junglers, they just need to name the passive Juggernaut, and grant, I don't know, 15 or 25% bonus health depending on situation.

Alternately they could just nerf Last Whisper and Void Staff back to being tank shredders only, but that's just crazy talk, I know.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

item 3075

SecretAgentHulk1 votes

It would be cool to have something like this for magic damage as well. Or one that scales with bonus health if you'd like to defend against both.

Stephenizgod2 votes

Im going to Jungle Garen now... I will rise all the way to Challenger with Garen Jungle just you watch...

Sirsir1 votes

Rip Atmas ;-;

Stephenizgod1 votes

I KNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW... Im so sad they removed Atmas instead of just slightly buffing it just a tiny little bit.

A Small Dog1 votes

Yeah I'm really looking forward to that Trist buff. It'll make it easier to trade in the lanes and push towers. Landing the E+Q and pew pew will come all the sooner now.

Feels good man.

PalPlays1 votes

Skarner buffs don't equal 4 more damage on his Q and 20 more on Fracture

Meep Man1 votes

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Skarner buffs don't equal 4 more damage on his Q and 20 more on Fracture

Eh, the E buff is an ok buff, but the Q buff is meh.

Also, Rammus and Amumu were simply buffed a lot by the item changes. Rammus gets a Sunfire Cape jungler item and Amumu gets a Sunfire Cape jungler item.

PalPlays1 votes

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Skarner buffs don't equal 4 more damage on his Q and 20 more on Fracture

Preach it brother! Oh wait...that's my comment...

Blackmage91 votes

They did say they were going to buff Amumu and Rammus. So there might be some more changes later on.

OxBaker1 votes

Lane Sion's getting a good nerfing so it's looking like I'll be stuck having to take him back to the jungle...

RavenMagus1 votes

I'm excited for Vi nerfs.

I'm depressed about no Veigar news.

Volt Cruelerz1 votes

To be fair though, they push changes out over time. Just because there aren't any Veigar buffs doesn't mean that there won't be at least something by 5.5.

Juggernaut6281 votes

VEIGAR DOESN'T NEED A BUFF!!!!! LITERALLY PLACE HIS E IN BETWEEN A GREEDY BISH AND YOU OR PLACE IT DEAD CENTER ON THEM AND THEY ARE STUNNED. AND HIS Q STACKS FASTER. GG WP!!!!!

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