You should not nerf rageblade for Yi or melee(he's a beginner champ)(he needs late game)

UrFieryDoom··1 votes·1,486 views

First of all things. Dude his w and r do 0 damage and his e is a toggle for guinsoos. So how is he going to do damage? Its fair that guinsoos does that much for a Yi because 3 abilities of his are useless for damage on their own single scaling because they buff Yi to do AA not burst. He only has Q to damage with outside of auto attacks, well does he sound broken now? Thornmail is an item too and it counters attack speed, healing. So if his passive did nothing, you could simply mimic what yi does on soraka with the same exact build.

Like isn't the game dumbing down?

DPS slower Burst lethality nerfed and just sort of left for dead for non assassins Crit made intentionally stronger damage than most builds. Healing increase to insane amounts to make DPS eeeeeven slower.

conclusion? = Silver of Legends.

I have not played LoL normal/ranked ever since I heard of this guinsoos change for Yi and as you can see its too much to just be like okay my main one trick champion will be gutted in a month or less so lemme just play on my other account and try my best to win knowing this will happen NOO!!! I will not play, this is unfair and scary. Same thing happened with conqueror, I was so scared to see it nerfed in damage.

I know i'm banned for a while but I just can't watch my main go in the dust Riot. I have been playing Yi from season 2 but got banned 10 times then i realized being polite and respectful keeps you from getting banned but also makes me a better person, but due to recent frustration i accidentally made racist remarks and got suspended(OH MY GOD WHAT WAS I THINKING). With that being said, I don't think Yi deserves this big of a nerf because if i wanted to have a good early game I would main rammus, Vi, or straight up build crit Yi which guinsoos has no interaction with.

So with the above comments you can see that Yi already has early game options and thats crit build. On hit is a tankier Yi that is better at dueling than teamfighting unless of course you are vulnerable enough to get killed by him well!

But also its not fair because yi is cc'd to death in high elo most of the time so its not fair to nerf his entire dps like this when already is considered useless in diamond+

item 3070 MasterYi item 3070 Crit would be the only build for Yi if this change goes through cause no one will build for guinsoos late game anymore. But crit bursts way more but guinsoos was actually still weaker but it helped against tanks and rammus a little but crit is stronger damage.

**FAIR NERFS **to replace this rageblade nerf:

  1. highlander 7-3 or 4/5 seconds duration.

  2. Immune to slows only first half of the duration.

  3. Guinsoos rageblade: On hit effects done by phantom hits are 75% effective or 80/85/90 ect. based on level? 50% effective-75-80-85+%???

  4. Guinsoos rageblade: Nerf only applies to ranged champions. Great change.

  5. Making Meditate: interrupted by damage after half its duration, or having it shield for 1/4 of 440 every second or more if its buffed.

  6. Making Q deal damage to 3 targets or 2 from 4: nerfs early.

  7. Guinsoos rageblade: having a clear indicator to show that he has guinsoos rage(like a shiny outline or flames!)(this is really fair in my opinion)

  8. Don't nerf him all is also an option considering he is similar to annie in that he does well in low elo but is normally cc'd to oblivion and not picked at all in high elo unless its a booster or a funnel user with taric mid on his team!

In my opinion funnelers make Yi look broken but if he's 5 levels ahead of the enemies highest level 12 or 13 from superior farm/kills then why shouldn't he 1v5 people in this example?

I mean you can 1v5 bots with any adc but this just shows how easy it is to do it if the enemies aren't as smart as a diamond player.

I know that the entire community is Silver or less or more rarely gold. That is who would downvote a post to leave Master Yi in peace. I don't know about you but once you get diamond elo then you will find Yi much less able to do what he does in "Silver".

I know the community all mains adc's or burst mages but hate Yi and want him to have no abilities and would not care if he was deleted but in all seriousness. He is NOT overpowered, you make him to be overpowered because you are always there for him at the right time to strategically kill you.

Great time to main Yi when the entire boards mains these champs: Ashe Draven Brand Blitzcrank Ezreal Hecarim MissFortune Lux Kayle Yasuo Twitch Talon Rengar Lucian LeeSin Leona Jhin JarvanIV Evelynn Darius Amumu Akali

Thing is you see is aside from hecarim everybody you play is easily able to die to yi if they position badly/don't understand how rageblade works(looking at you Leona and amumu) You can't just walk up to Yi as a tank support 1v1 and expect to get away with it.

25 Comments

AlienPrimate2 votes

Yi is not a beginner champ. To make effective use of his Q and w, you have to know every champion's kit in the game.

UrFieryDoom1 votes

I played him for 5+ seasons so I guess that's the case for me. But what I'm saying is his damage is simple and direct, auto attacks. So why would auto attacks be nerfed? Doesn't make sense and isn't fair!

xDogMeatx2 votes

i want the rageblade nerf honestly even its least he wont chunk instantly EVERY freaking tank to the point where armor dont even exist or matter.

psuedo meta2 votes

This is why im actually pissed. Riot is going to waste extra time nerfing champs, items, changing the game. When in the end. The main problem is conqueror. conquerer can have a limited run after max stack, and a cd inbetween max stack end and new stack.

But no yi does deserve a nerf. Why? there's plenty on non lcs champs that get nerfed and plenty of god tier champs that get buffed. Yi shouldn't be an exception. He shoulnt be able to hard carry every iron-high gold game.

UrFieryDoom1 votes

I admire your intelligence but lets be real. He carries easily iron-gold but its not Yi the reason that carries this hard. Its his playstyle and high risk factor. Facing bad low rank players makes it low risk high reward from high risk high reward. That's why. and no he is a low elo stomper for this reason only nerfs that reck his identity as a skirmisher can change this very fact.

psuedo meta2 votes

Well the main thing they are doing to him

is giving him a QOL nerf, to slightly increase the outplay potential and make it more obvious how to outplay him.

He will still be a low elo stomper afterwards don't worry

Ragnaveil1 votes

Why are people still assuming Conq is the issue. Have we forgotten the fact its been nerfed several times and the primary users who use it barely suffered? Jax and Riven practically lost nothing from Conq's nerf, therefore they are the issue, not the rune. Same applies to Yi.

UrFieryDoom1 votes

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Why are people still assuming Conq is the issue. Have we forgotten the fact its been nerfed several times and the primary users who use it barely suffered? Jax and Riven practically lost nothing from Conq's nerf, therefore they are the issue, not the rune. Same applies to Yi.

It isn't, there really isn't an issue with Yi, The actually way to 'nerf' Yi is that Riot would have to coach every single silver tier player on the damn silver but this is not possible and even then some will still not listen and so forth.

UrFieryDoom1 votes

I know that the entire community is Silver or less or more rarely gold. That is who would downvote a post to leave Master Yi in peace. I don't know about you but once you get diamond elo then you will find Yi much less able to do what he does in "Silver".

I know the community all mains adc's or burst mages but hate Yi and want him to have no abilities and would not care if he was deleted but in all seriousness. He is NOT overpowered, you make him to be overpowered because you are always there for him at the right time to strategically kill you.

Great time to main Yi when the entire boards mains these champs: Ashe Draven Brand Blitzcrank Ezreal Hecarim MissFortune Lux Kayle Yasuo Twitch Talon Rengar Lucian LeeSin Leona Jhin JarvanIV Evelynn Darius Amumu Akali

Thing is you see is aside from hecarim everybody you play is easily able to die to yi if they position badly/don't understand how rageblade works(looking at you Leona and amumu) You can't just walk up to Yi as a tank support 1v1 and expect to get away with it.

GripaAviara4 votes

Yi is incredibly overpowered, what makes him unsuccessful in TF and thus in winrate is his melee auto attacking kit, which lets him vulnerable to CC focus and also the fact his early ganks are not that effective having no CC.

But to address these issues he needs a kit change, not buffs

UrFieryDoom1 votes

He is great in solo queue in lower rankings but that's because people don't realize he is a master skirmisher not just some noob right clicking everything he sees.

But no I didn't say I needed or wanted buffs on Yi I mentioned that I would like to have him remain the same or even get nerfs to hit kit that doesn't directly target his DPS but his efficiency(no e nerf for example).

right now its like this in low ranks. MasterYi + item 3124 = possible snowball if he plays it right(I mained him for many seasons and I think guinsoos was the greatest thing to happen for him since sated devourer was removed)

GripaAviara2 votes

Not playing Yi a lot, but what can say is:

  • crit build is way better if there are 4 squishy champs
  • for the anti-tank build, he doesn't necessarily need guisoo to be effective, but it helps. So the nerf is too little impact imho anyway
UrFieryDoom1 votes

I'm loosing out on damage and for those close fights where I am left to 1v5 but succeed because enemies are less lvl than me is a big deal. Now I have to be extra stronger than them. Why does riot keep dumbing LoL down and slowing DPS people.

UrFieryDoom1 votes

Like isn't the game dumbing down?

DPS slower Burst lethality nerfed and just sort of left for dead for non assassins Crit made intentionally stronger damage than most builds. Healing increase to insane amounts to make DPS eeeeeven slower.

conclusion? = Silver of Legends.

ContDeCaterinca14 votes

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He is great in solo queue in lower rankings but that's because people don't realize he is a master skirmisher not just some noob right clicking everything he sees.

But no I didn't say I needed or wanted buffs on Yi I mentioned that I would like to have him remain the same or even get nerfs to hit kit that doesn't directly target his DPS but his efficiency(no e nerf for example).

right now its like this in low ranks. MasterYi + item 3124 = possible snowball if he plays it right(I mained him for many seasons and I think guinsoos was the greatest thing to happen for him since sated devourer was removed)

Yes, but Rageblade interaction with Double Strike exceeds anything another champion can get from items. You get double strikes every 2nd auto, that's 4 times full on hit effects in 2 autos.

He can outdamage any squishy with a build meant to melt tanks, while shredding tanks like Fiora and Vayne.

Yi full build has 0 counterplay in 1 vs 1 without hard CC, even Jax losses(... but I guess Trynda can burst him down with his crits).

UrFieryDoom1 votes

First of all things. Dude his w and r do 0 damage and his e is a toggle for guinsoos. So how is he going to do damage? Its fair that guinsoos does that much for a Yi because 3 abilities of his are useless for damage on their own single scaling because they buff Yi to do AA not burst.

He only has Q to damage with outside of auto attacks, well does he sound broken now? Thornmail is an item too and it counters attack speed, healing.

So if his passive did nothing, you could simply mimic what yi does on soraka with the same exact build.

ChompyWulf3 votes

This. Yi isn't totally OP and with CC lockdown can be stopped, but his pure damage output is nuts without any counterplay. That's why Fiora was overhauled, she was a lot like Yi is, able to dash in, stick on, and kill without interaction. Yi needs a rework instead of just number shuffling.

Also, lowering dps and upping healing isn't dumbing down a game, it's changing the skill curve. Boosting DPS and nerfing healing/survival lowers game skill levels because tons of quick deaths without interaction and play opportunity means only one skillset works.

UrFieryDoom1 votes

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This. Yi isn't totally OP and with CC lockdown can be stopped, but his pure damage output is nuts without any counterplay. That's why Fiora was overhauled, she was a lot like Yi is, able to dash in, stick on, and kill without interaction. Yi needs a rework instead of just number shuffling.

Also, lowering dps and upping healing isn't dumbing down a game, it's changing the skill curve. Boosting DPS and nerfing healing/survival lowers game skill levels because tons of quick deaths without interaction and play opportunity means only one skillset works.

Skirmisher on Lol wiki says that skirmishers get extreme sustained damage and defensive tools, this being said Yi does have extreme sustained damage so I don't get whats wrong with that dude. I mean the build Yi builds is strong but the opponents usually fall for the easiest flanks so hes apparently op?

On champion spotlight the riot member legit 1v3s and says skillfully took down so and so and acted as if this is normal which in a skirmishers case it is.

ChompyWulf1 votes

You completely ignore what I say and argue that Yi should do tons of damage. I don't have an issue with his damage per se, because he lacks major defensive tools or scaling and can be burned down about as quickly as an ADC for example. However, the problem you ignore is LACK OF INTERACTION OR COUNTERPLAY. Like Old Fiora vs New Fiora. Learn words and meanings then come back and chat with the big boys.

Akenero1 votes

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I know that the entire community is Silver or less or more rarely gold. That is who would downvote a post to leave Master Yi in peace. I don't know about you but once you get diamond elo then you will find Yi much less able to do what he does in "Silver".

I know the community all mains adc's or burst mages but hate Yi and want him to have no abilities and would not care if he was deleted but in all seriousness. He is NOT overpowered, you make him to be overpowered because you are always there for him at the right time to strategically kill you.

Great time to main Yi when the entire boards mains these champs: Ashe Draven Brand Blitzcrank Ezreal Hecarim MissFortune Lux Kayle Yasuo Twitch Talon Rengar Lucian LeeSin Leona Jhin JarvanIV Evelynn Darius Amumu Akali

Thing is you see is aside from hecarim everybody you play is easily able to die to yi if they position badly/don't understand how rageblade works(looking at you Leona and amumu) You can't just walk up to Yi as a tank support 1v1 and expect to get away with it.

You listed Leona, are you daft? Leo is who you pick to beat yi if you're a support. Also his interaction with rageblade is just a massive damage amp that really shouldn't exist. And abilities don't have to be all his damage, he has autos, that's all he needs ngl

UrFieryDoom1 votes

Guys you are being a little bit biased with your downvotes, this is a serious thread not a

"I position badly and hate Yi because he killed me so i'ma downvote so he can be weaker than me with my infinite edge build"

thread.

But yes this is legit, I am sure there is a more reasonable nerf for Yi than hitting his hive! MasterYi item 3070

UrFieryDoom1 votes

Some people are just so biased they don't even vote for nerfs in the poll this just shows how try hard they are to get Yi nerfed. For the love of god riot games please don't listen to those biased people.

I will quit LoL if this change goes through, Target dummy has 10k hp and I'm loosing 3k-4k damage in my highlander duration compared to live servers 7 seconds. I will just keep getting nerfed okay he's a skirmisher and that's that ! This is like nerfing trynd ult, its only good for bad players.

UrFieryDoom1 votes

I main adc now but hey don't do this nerf then i'll play yi again.

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