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With all of number nerfs to lethality but little ADC itemization nerfs, game is getting boring fast

UrFieryDoom·Mar 31, 2019·4 votes·1,117 views

The lethality item duskblade was made to be the exact same power for ranged and melee(no melee benefit yawn) And made its damage lower among like 10+ other assassin things while ADC just got a 25% reductuction on crits and a new rune that even more hates against melees(conqueror ranged refresh?).

All they do is stand still and right click me to death in 2 seconds. 21 lethality should actually be 21 pen cause its not fair. They get 15% crit and they crit for same damage as a person with max crit without ie. Lethality just needs reverts on runes, items not really much buffs but the 21 lethality= 21 pen is fair.

lower dmg on assassins makes the game really boring and its all apparently decided by the ADC thats standing still in place and right clicking constantly on everything with 900 range and 500 ad(hello zed shurikens).

They even have a steraks by getting crit(PD). plz stop riot.

They prob do more damage than assassin but they lack defense this is game balance because they can't tank and do damage too this would wipe out the need for darius garen and fighters in general.

Dont see any reason this build should tank any assassin as it has 0 tank items not even dead mans plate......

20 Comments

ValyrianBladeMar 31, 20195 votes

If you're playing an Assassin and complaining about ADCs, you're not playing the Assassin right...

UrFieryDoomMar 31, 20192 votes

I feel the nerfs to duskblade and electrocute they are hard! Sudden impact too. Everything that defines lethality was nerfed in favor of the 0 tank items "victims" No man i'm the victim now. item 3070 Zed Imagine how many rengar/kha'zix's will get skins if lethality buffed/reverted nerfs? Or Zed?

UrFieryDoomMar 31, 20194 votes

Assassin community likes to keep in tha shadows but ADC community will hate assassins and yell about it no matter what its not fair that they are the reason Assassin items are in a bad state now.

Cind3rkickMar 31, 20194 votes

I read this 3 times and still dont know what you're trying to say.

From the way i understand, you are saying:

Duskblade reduces an assassins damage Adc got nerfed and do 25% less damage from crits Adc just stand there and auto people to death Lethality is broken Critting someone does the same damage as critting someone Lower damage on assassins is boring Adc do more damage than assassins but have less defence Adc shouldnt be able to tank any assassin Adc buy deadmans plate

All your arguments contradict eachother You say duskbladede gives assassins less damage but then neglect to mention the 209 bonus damage from the auto Assassins do get the 1:1 lethality to armour reduction ratio, when the adc are at their strongest Adc do 25% less crit damage than usual but still auto people to death Why should someone with a lower crit chance to less crit damage than someone with a higher crit chance? Assassins can still 1 shot adc... Adc are supposed to do the most damage in the game, so ofcourse they have low defence

Why is deadmans plate at all relevant here? No adc build it so why are you using it in the comparison

UrFieryDoomMar 31, 20191 votes

thats bs yea. its flat pen idk why its not just reducing it(I PAID 3K GOLD OMG)

Cind3rkickMar 31, 20191 votes

Care to expand? I have no clue what youre going on about (If you dont like the item then why buy it)

Chembaron YamadaMar 31, 20192 votes

If an ADC stands still and just auto attacks, then they are bad at the role and most likely going to die.

xDogMeatxMar 31, 20191 votes

nobody loves 1 million damage undodgable auto attacks from weak 'whoosh whoosh' arrows.

Chembaron YamadaMar 31, 20191 votes

No one loves assassins coming from the fog of war and killing you in 0,1 seconds with their burst. No one loves juggernauts being able to waltz through your team, killing everyone who dares to take a single step too close to them, No one loves enchanters point&click shield spamming their allies and deny kills that way.

They all still exist and have a right to.

xDogMeatxMar 31, 20191 votes

jax/riven/yasuo is a mobile juggernaut. besides that all adc has to do is hide in bush then auto assassinate a target with said damage. not to mention its frustrating that a whole team peels for a person who has already halo shields on them. ADCS dont deserve peel for the amount of shields they already have. its kinda cowardly to do damage at range while every enemy chains you down. but when my hard focus kills the adc and just the adc even if we get aced just by kiling the adc i feel we won that teamfight. thats how frustrating attacking a peeled adc feels.

vgamedudeApr 1, 20191 votes

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No one loves assassins coming from the fog of war and killing you in 0,1 seconds with their burst. No one loves juggernauts being able to waltz through your team, killing everyone who dares to take a single step too close to them, No one loves enchanters point&click shield spamming their allies and deny kills that way.

They all still exist and have a right to.

Except your precious adc right click out play is the only one that is required and present in every single game.

adc stomps the floor with the other roles in pick rate alone that is evident.

Sir SaltarinMar 31, 20191 votes

and a new rune that even more hates against melees(conqueror ranged refresh?).

Number of rangeds that use Conqueror ?

UrFieryDoomMar 31, 20192 votes

Its cancer because ADC can literally turn into master yi and not die, this is why i don't take it on yi now because its used better on ranged champs. item 3070

UrFieryDoomMar 31, 20193 votes

any ranged can take it out of preferrence(draven, ezreal or anyone really jinx also)

ZephyrDrakeMar 31, 20191 votes

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any ranged can take it out of preferrence(draven, ezreal or anyone really jinx also)

not really, Ezreal never takes Conqueror it's useless on him. Jinx doesn't care about it either. The only ones who can use conqueror with any sort of usefulness would be Lucian and Draven, everyone else has something way better than it. Even then pretty sure that Lucian and Draven have better keystones to use than conqueror.

Chembaron YamadaMar 31, 20193 votes

Twitch can use it fairly well, because his poison prevents him losing the stacks so quickly. But yeah, Conqueror really isn't that useful on ranged champions, don't know what this guy is talking about.

Yes, all champions can use Conqueror, but that doesn't mean it is good on them. Everyone can use Guardian as well, that still doesn't make it a great choice to use it on your Jinx.

KazekibaMar 31, 20191 votes

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not really, Ezreal never takes Conqueror it's useless on him. Jinx doesn't care about it either. The only ones who can use conqueror with any sort of usefulness would be Lucian and Draven, everyone else has something way better than it. Even then pretty sure that Lucian and Draven have better keystones to use than conqueror.

Conqueror got gutted for ranged champs because a snakelady abused it.

UrFieryDoomMar 31, 20191 votes

When I all in the ADC out of position I expect to one shot this ADC not get crit on for a trillion damage and witness a 600 shield on glass cannon item builds take its effect..... Everyone loved it when ADC's were nerfed, I think now the game is a problem because you put that crit damage back on ADCs. Thats like buffing master yi's E to deal 39/50/60/80/90 true damage base and not caring about its balance..

KazekibaMar 31, 20191 votes

duskblade was made to be the exact same power for ranged and melee(no melee benefit

yeah because a 99% slow isn't a benefit... ? Also melees do more damage and one-shot wards. The item doesn't do much for ranged champions at all. Its the item for favoring melees over ranged.

vgamedudeApr 1, 20191 votes

This board thinks its fine that bot is 99 percent adc and always the deciding factor and main force. They think it's fine for years you have to build entire team around adc, they think it's fine that there will never be diversity bot, they think it's fine you can get 3 shot from range with unmissable autos.

The adc circlejerk is the reason this game has been ruined.

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