Runic armor and Morde

Mordepool·Jul 26, 2016·2 votes·903 views

When asked about Runic armours mastery not working with Iron.

CertainlyT - 9 months ago Oh no! It should definitely work with Iron Man. I probably broke it.

9 months have passed and nothing has been done. Riot. Hows about you give Morde some Quality of life buffs. Since you know. Noone plays him now anyway.

Edithttp://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-feedback/MH5L31df-riot-mordekaiser-and-runic-armor?comment=0002

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/R9qEczjl-preseason-open-forum-day-2?comment=00030000

I dont want to Debate the definition of a shield. Im just calling riot out to uphold there word and give a solution or compensation

Thank you for finding what i could not with regards to the bug fix. Closing this thread now

30 Comments

MortekaiserJul 26, 20161 votes

i dont run it personally but just goes to show you how much riot cares

MordepoolJul 26, 20161 votes

Riots succeeded in alienating morde playerbase. That all they did

Silly NeekoJul 26, 20161 votes

Well, technically, he does not actually have a "shield"..... he has a resource bar that fills up and takes damage for him. 500 bar should not magically become 590 with windspeaker and runic..... or 540 with just runic.

MordepoolJul 26, 20161 votes

Its a goddamn shield they said they intended the mastery to work with. Just trying to keep riot Honest. So technically your opinion is invalid and unwanted

BeatzBoyFTWJul 26, 20161 votes

What the commenter explained logically:

he does not actually have a "shield"..... he has a resource bar that fills up and takes damage for him

How OP replies back:

Its a goddamn shield

http://neudi1fr9mh4edwqa2ori151.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/drake_zpsa6d8127a.jpg

Just trying to keep riot Honest. So technically your opinion is invalid and unwanted

Says a guy with no link source provided, even a 5 month old baby can make up bullsh't such as this thread you made.

MordepoolJul 26, 20161 votes

Scroll up dumbass i dont have to make up anything. Its right there in front of your smug nose

BeatzBoyFTWJul 26, 20161 votes

First of all, reported for Offensive.

Second, how bout you reply to me first instead of rushing to a random one month old thread just to bug him about a Morde reowkr, huh

MordepoolJul 26, 20161 votes

Sry for the name calling. I dont appreciate getting called a liar. My anger gets the better of me

BeatzBoyFTWJul 26, 20161 votes

Morde's passive shield =/= Janna's shield

So technically, the Mastery isn't suppose to work on Morde's passive shield. No idea what source you ~~found~~ created about CertainlyT mentioning that.

MordepoolJul 26, 20161 votes

http://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-feedback/MH5L31df-riot-mordekaiser-and-runic-armor?comment=0002

Here ya go. The link

BeatzBoyFTWJul 26, 20161 votes

Thanks, put that at the top of your thread next time to prevent misconfusion next time.

Actually can't tell if he's serious, or just joking around since the OP of that thread is Malicious Metal. Will submit a ticket to Riot Support myself just to recheck this.

MordepoolJul 26, 20161 votes

I have before. But deaf ears and all that

BeatzBoyFTWJul 26, 20161 votes

Will check it myself. Promise to post back here again when I get a legit answer.

Silly NeekoJul 26, 20161 votes

I like morde, i really do, but that is not an actual shield. It is a shield but not a shield...... its like Braum shielding with his Shield. Should Runic Armor work on that as well because in all honesty, it is a SHIELD? I am still trying to recall if i have seen something about them wanting Runic Armor to work on Morde IM or not... think it was on the patch notes of when the new masteries were released?

But they probably fixed it because they found the flaw in the logic, that you are failing to see currently. If Runic Armor worked on Mordekaiser, he would have increased resource bar? Or would it just constantly refresh for every 1 shield loss? A 500 IM resource bar would give 540 with just Runic. A 499 will then replenish that 40 shield buff. All in all the higher your shield, the longer it will stay up, because it will be giving free shield for every hit you take. Now for example with Janna, her shield is a base value based on shield level + ap. You add 8% to that, it is still a base value of 8% more. You damage it and it does not refresh.

You see the point made of saying Mordekaiser's IM is not a shield?

MordepoolJul 26, 20161 votes

I see your point. But let me ask you this. Say a New player decides to purchase Mordekaiser. Goes hey shield buff mastery koool. Not realizing it does absolutely NOTHING. Cause how would they know that a part of the Framework for the game they are playing doesnt work with the champion.

That is what riot like to call an outlier and Generally. They make attempts to Fix or Compensate outliers. Just rarely if ever with Morde it seems

Silly NeekoJul 26, 20161 votes

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I see your point. But let me ask you this. Say a New player decides to purchase Mordekaiser. Goes hey shield buff mastery koool. Not realizing it does absolutely NOTHING. Cause how would they know that a part of the Framework for the game they are playing doesnt work with the champion.

That is what riot like to call an outlier and Generally. They make attempts to Fix or Compensate outliers. Just rarely if ever with Morde it seems

New players may be confused, but arnt they always about which masteries are best on which? XD thats why they stuff us oldies with the newbies. If they are obviously newbies, advice can be given, and tada! New friend who will likely be a dog and try following you everywhere xD not saying that is bad, but in my case at least I know the basics and some of the finer points of all champions, but most of the time i do not give the best of advice or know what they are doing wrong if they are..... because i do not normally play every single champion league has to offer in every game xD

MordepoolJul 26, 20161 votes

My point isnt if its a shield or not its riot said they would fix it. And havent acted in 9 months

Edit: thats what it feels like to be a morde player. I quit this game for 9 months because of his rework i promised malicous metal id help try and fix him. Its just riot doesnt care

Silly NeekoJul 26, 20161 votes

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My point isnt if its a shield or not its riot said they would fix it. And havent acted in 9 months

One member of the Riot team posted, they likely went and talked to some of the others, and if there was a mistake, they are probably still trying to figure out how to make Morde's IM a shield, not just a shield but not a shield shield..... again, like Braum.... if the IM was not meant to work with Runic, then CertainlyT was misinformed or thought wrong, and then forgot to post the explaination they were given after talking to some people.....

Not saying you are in the wrong of bringing it up to get some clarification as to what is going on with him, but I am still going to assume it was thought about making it work for him, buuuut, due to my previous statement of how that would be pretty broken, they decided against it....... have you looked through the patch notes from then till now to see if they changed it? They often might toss in an additional information or fix or tweak within a week or so of the patch release..... i could swear i saw something about Morde and his IM with runic somewhere in a patch notes, just i cant for the life of me remember what it is exactly.

MordepoolJul 26, 20161 votes

I have read all the official patch notes and even the pbe unofficial changes nothing is mentioned. That was a boring afternoon

Perhaps your thinking of stashu qoute about it

BeatzBoyFTWJul 26, 20161 votes

So I've already submitted a ticket to Riot Support, and will probably get a response by next day.

Meanwhile, I asked Garena Support about this, and they replied instantly by reviewing these links:

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/3HBFvQG2-riot-certainlyt-how-does-runic-armor-work-with-mordekaiser http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/R9qEczjl-preseason-open-forum-day-2?comment=00030000

Technically, they claimed that it should work on Morde but it didn't cz of a bug. We'll wait for Riot's response soon to see if it's true, cz I'm still trying to comprehend on why Morde's shield is a special case.

MordepoolJul 26, 20161 votes

Look at my reply to Wolfcub2000

BeatzBoyFTWJul 26, 20161 votes

Because everyone knew the concept of shield is the likes of Janna Morgana Karma Blitzcrank Sion Ryze Viktor and so on. The only weird exceptions would be, at first Mordekaiser , but then so forth Braum Galio .

Examples of Janna Sion are typically having the same game logical shield where it would set a certain amount of extra grey HP on their HP bar to block a few amount of damage.

Examples of Braum Galio are typically cosmetic versions of shield, where on the gameplay tip it says "shield", but in the real gameplay, its mechanic is similar to the likes of Garen 's W.

In the example of Mordekaiser . its shield mechanic is not similar to the likes of Janna , since the shield has a resource bar instead of adding to his HP bar. This is the one weird part why I don't get that Runic Armor would actually work with Iron Man.

MordepoolJul 26, 20161 votes

Malphite is the other guy with Morde who dont work with it. You saw the posts aaying they would fix/ work on it yet nothing is done in 9 months

BeatzBoyFTWJul 26, 20161 votes

Rioter only mentioned Morde, but I dunno about Malphite despite Ergono mentioning it. If he does state that %hp shield doesn't proc with Runic Armor, then neither should Nautilus Sion .

MordepoolJul 26, 20161 votes

Im not a programmer i know some basic ladder logic programing i dont even know if they can make it work. But that doesnt absolve them from making an effort or atleast make the mastery non-selectable for the champion

Silly NeekoJul 26, 20161 votes

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Im not a programmer i know some basic ladder logic programing i dont even know if they can make it work. But that doesnt absolve them from making an effort or atleast make the mastery non-selectable for the champion

Well, it still works. Healing from Grasp, hextech, etc is still amplified by it. So people just have to remember not for IM but for sustain xD

Silly NeekoJul 26, 20161 votes

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Because everyone knew the concept of shield is the likes of and so on. The only weird exceptions would be, at first , but then so forth .

Examples of are typically having the same game logical shield where it would set a certain amount of extra grey HP on their HP bar to block a few amount of damage.

Examples of are typically cosmetic versions of shield, where on the gameplay tip it says "shield", but in the real gameplay, its mechanic is similar to the likes of 's W.

In the example of . its shield mechanic is not similar to the likes of , since the shield has a resource bar instead of adding to his HP bar. This is the one weird part why I don't get that Runic Armor would actually work with Iron Man.

Hey, i already made that point xD i clarified it with Braum shield too :p lol, but yeah, that pretty much is what i am assuming

Silly NeekoJul 26, 20161 votes

I propose..... to myself! Jk, but i propose that going into a game with and without runic armor to see if any difference is made for certain without a shadow of a doubt.... I will likely try later today if i remember.