Hear me out here.
In Titanfall, players who Cheat or Hack do not get banned. Instead, they get put into a "Cheaters Queqe", where they can only play against other cheaters.
So, can we do this for the Flamers of League?
Instead of Chatbans, force them to play with their own kind for 10 games.
OperationDEEZ140 votesPutting fire and fire together only makes more fire. Riot's already discussed why they will never do this.
WolfBV16 votesPutting fire and fire together only makes more fire. Riot's already discussed why they will never do this.
But if you put two fires together they'll burn away twice as fast.
Hello I am Bird12 votesNo. They will just burn brighter :s
Ancestor0073 votesActually you a re both right if you are talking about fire. Humans are a little bit different though...
TotN Titan10 votesI have no problems if Riot wants to put the trollers and flamers into a room and light them all on fire... just saying.
JAGMAG3 voteswhat you just said was extremely toxic (wishing death on someone) and therefore you would be included in that group
Chaotic Sage1 votes...pretty sure that there's a different place for people on the boards. Then if it came to a vote based on just what he said there then he wouldn't be put in the room anyway. He'd more likely be supported and patted on the back. Everyone hates the flamers and trolls my friend.
JAGMAG1 votesthat's my point he just said he wouldn't mind them being lit on fire...that's extremely toxic joke or not yet everyone will pat him on the back saying that's right i wouldn't mine setting them on fire either what makes that any less toxic? i bet that guy would lose his shit if in game someone said hey man i hope you get locked in a room and are set on fire even if the guy was joking
Chaotic Sage1 votesExcept this isn't in a game. This is on the boards where everyone posting which is my point that you seem to have missed. Sure in a real game it might be a problem, but once again, guess what this isn't. Yes it's a toxic joke, hell this is sort of a toxic thread in the comments at least but it's just a bunch of people complaining about flamers and trolls. There's around 10 of these threads a day and if they banned every single one of the people making what you call 'toxic' jokes and comments then we'd be outnumbered by the actually toxic people that these threads are about.
JAGMAG1 votesyes this is not in game but it is on the boards attached to the game...i fail to see how its any different from in game i could actually report his comment if i felt like it so riot seems to think toxicity can be an issue on here also i dont agree with the idea of hey the majority thinks ifs funny it must be k if you do not deem it to be ok in game it is not ok on the boards or in life saying i hope you burn in game is not acceptable joke or not saying i hope your burn on the boards is not ok joke or not saying i hope your burn irl is not funny joke or not
Chaotic Sage1 votesExcept that everyone on here KNOWS that no one on here actually wants them dead in any way shape or form. As I said before, we see 10 or more of these types of post a day. They just want to not have to deal with them in games and use the boards to complain about it since there's nothing they can really do beyond reporting them in game. Since reporting that doesn't feel like it does anything so they end up here. So, if/when Riot develops a good/better way to weed out trolls and flamers and we hopefully see less of them then there will also be less of this type of post as well. So by solving that problem they solve this as well, though you seem to be the only one that actually believes the posts on here need to be banned or fixed. I'd rather see the trolls and flamers weeded out rather than the players that are just frustrated victims of the trolls and flamers which is really what you're suggesting here.
JAGMAG1 voteswhat if the flamer is a victim of the other guys trolling/feeding? i do not flame anymore but when i used to i never just randomly flamed it was always in response to someone else s behavior (riot still deems that as inappropriate behavior they dont care who started it) i would flame for two reason
now i know allot of people will claim they weren't trolling they were just having fun or they weren't feeding they had only died 4 times (in less then 8 mins)
but those guys were ruining my game so i would flame them did that make me toxic? yes it did i was toxic ill admit it i was the kind of guy these people complain about but you know what? i consider them to be just as bad you say people like that ruin your game well they probably think your ruining their game.
TotN Titan1 votesI've never flamed anyone or trolled anyone in my 2 and a half years of playing. I don't believe that any of that kind of behavior is going to improve anyone's play or make me feel better if my team isn't doing very well. Obviously, I don't want anyone to die or get cancer or kill themselves, like some flamers might tell people for giving away four kills in eight minutes. I have no personal interest in being personally invested in anyone's life on this forum like that. Live your own life. I'll live mine.
But you have to remember: you are on the forums. You are scanning through the muckiest of mucks when you are leafing through the numerous pages of whine threads. And this isn't just a reflection of the League of Legends forums, but of any forum ever created. People troll, flame, and whine on EVERY forum. That's pretty much become the unwritten rule about giving everyone a faceless name and free reign to type whatever they want. Whenever you open up situations where people do not have to be held accountable for their actions or comments.
That being said, if you take my comments offensively, I'm sorry. You are very sensitive and that is disappointing. Call me a fascist. Call me toxic. It doesn't really have an effect on me. You don't know me as a person and you will never know me on that level. But I won't judge you for your opinion. Just as you shouldn't judge me for a joke, as poor as you may have found it.
JAGMAG1 votesThat's pretty much become the unwritten rule about giving everyone a faceless name and free reign to type whatever they want.
ikr imagine how much bull shit would go away if you had your physical address attacked to their profile
That being said, if you take my comments offensively, I'm sorry. You are very sensitive and that is disappointing.
im not offended by it i just find it super annoying that you would complain about flamers and toxic people by saying you wouldn't mind if they were lit on fire
Chaotic Sage1 votesWell, now that you've just completely invalidated your opinion by admitting to the transgressions you're saying the above person should be banned for...I don't think I need to actually keep talking but I will anyway. I will repeat, just one more time THIS IS NOT IN GAME RIGHT NOW. This is a comment thread ABOUT things that happen in game. It's for the most recent players or players that frequently have the bad luck of getting trolls and flamers. As for your additional attempt at an unrelated point. People that are angry at the trolls and flamers should know that there is a mute button and proceed to use it and then try to play as normal as possible. Let the other team know that you have a flamer or troll on your team and proceed to play the game normally. If you start flaming back you're just playing into the trolls hand and making yourself also deserving of a ban. While also contributing to not getting said trolls or flamers banned you've also now broken the 'code' yourself.
Chaotic Sage1 votesOkay, lets tackle this giant run on sentence. First off, you admitted to it once and by personality type if you flamed at one time, you're liable to flame again if triggered, so that's also invalidated. Nice try though. Secondly, you somehow keep completely missing the point of this. This is a Complaint thread. Nothing is meant by anything of what is said. All the people posting here want is to not have to deal with trolls and flamers and many of them are taking out their anger here rather than in the game itself. I don't know how you keep missing my point but it's that this isn't a real set of death wishes or threats, it's people that are angry and tired of the trolls and flamers. So if you think they should be banned for that then I think your view is a bit skewed in the wrong direction. I'll repeat one more time since the first few probably still haven't gotten through to you. I am not talking about death threats and the like being okay on the boards. I'm talking about this thread specifically where they're not serious and it's just for like minded people to complain and come up with things they think Riot could do about it. Death threats and the like are never okay in any situation but here it's not serious by any means and you thinking that it is leads me believe you may be a little bit slow, which is okay, but please get my point this time.
TotN Titan1 votesI wouldn't care one way or the other if some guy in a game told me he wanted me to burn in a fire. I've heard far worse about far better people than me.
JAGMAG2 votesif you wouldn't care then why are you complain about them and saying you wouldn't mind if they caught on fire? that seems to say that flamers upset you a bit
TotN Titan1 votesFlamers do upset me. They upset the balance of my team when they start biting and fussing at the rest of my team for mistakes they might have made. They upset my chances of winning a game when instead of 5v5, I'm playing a 4v6 or 3v7. They upset the fun I can have in a game because of their useless comments and their hateful spirit.
But that's not what you said, is it? You said:
"i bet that guy would lose his shit if in game someone said hey man i hope you get locked in a room and are set on fire even if the guy was joking"
To which my reply is that I wouldn't care one way or the other what someone has to say to ME. I definitely wouldn't lose my shit over anything anyone said to me in a game. They don't know me.
Ancestor0074 votesSo you wish for some individuals to die because they act like a b1tch. No offense, but that is not democracy. It's called fascism. If they don't do as we tell them to, they are executed.
KaisadiIIa3 votesThat is not called fascism. Fascist dictators does not execute you for being a btch. Actually they do because you fight against those btches.
And yes, I'd upvote for purging all the trolls and flamers from this game. It will help to reduce our overpopulation, too, so it's a win-win.
WolfBV1 votesBurn brighter die faster. :D
Celeste Benal5 votesThey will also burn on their own little island away from everyone else. Have fun.
SmokinSickStyle1 votesRiot doesn't because then people will complain about discrimination of "differently intelligent people".
The whole community however agrees that those who don't behave properly shall play with their equals, so they might possibly understand how it feels to be treated as you treat others.
Comparing fire + fire in a realistic way is dumb.
People are not fire.
People are people.
It's not that Riot can't, it's that Riot doesn't want to.
kiloechoesp2 votesBasically this ^
If you put flamers and trolls with each other, their behavior doesn't get better, it gets worse. Riot doesn't want players to flame moar, they want players to play moar. A lot of once-in-lifetime flamers and trolls are long time players too, losing them loses a good portion of the player base.
So, riot's policy is to make them not want to flame as much.
In a sense then, the fire+fire analogy is actually pretty accurate. I would go so far to say that the name "flamers" comes from instigating others. Another analogy is: when one person flames, it lights up the dynamite.
SmokinSickStyle2 votesYes, the fire analogy is accurate when applied to well, fires, what i meant is fire + fire in a "realistic" way cannot be compared to people because we are not fires.
Another reason is that Riot fears that people being stuck in a queue where they get treated the same way they treat others may result into those players that are stubborn enough and not willing to change their behaviour into leaving the game \ stop buying as, they are part of the community and willing or not, they are also part of those that contribute because let's be honest, if you have played this game for more than a year i bet my money that the great majority has at least bought RP once or desired to.
Regarding to your last part, the flamers and toxic are called like that because they can spread, basically what you said, BUT think of it, if you put 2 people that are already flaming and being toxic in a safe place, they will not start a great fire or be more toxic they will cease to exist to some point, or well, be trapped there to eternity if they aren't willing to bend to the right path to take.
Conturbatio1 votesOh excuse me, putting fire and fire together is better than mixing fire with ice since fire melts ice (aka sucks the fun out of normal players' game experience).
arc951 voteshowever, fighting fire with fire is an effective fire fight technique :P
MasterOfTheOrder22 votesWhen I read the community should give LoL the "Titanfall treatment", I thought he meant we should just stop playing it. I laughed.
I also stopped playing a few weeks ago because they keep ruining my favorite champions, but that's a different story. Have a like for the laugh you gave me.
CasterGilgamesh3 voteswhat where your favorite champions mine are 
MasterOfTheOrder2 voteswhat where your favorite champions mine are
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(bot lane counter-carry, fun times)
CasterGilgamesh2 voteswhy did i get downvoted for saying my favorite champions? lol
TegridyWeeeeed2 votesI gave you an upvote to compensate xD
CasterGilgamesh1 votesthanks
s LessThanThree9 votesInb4 this happens then all the chat banned people emotionally identify with each other and understand each others frustration and become all best friends amongst each other and Riot accidentally creates the best little community out of all League of Legends
Saianna6 votesLets give League of Legends the Titanfall treatment
For a second i though you meant "lets forget about LOL as we did with TitanFall"
Transgressor1 votesSo true, i still can't believe how bad this game was. I was so hyped, and got so dissapointed. No, not because it didn't leave up to my expectations, because it was genuinely bad :( . What a sad year for gaming that was overall.
dEAdbUs5 votesThis won't work, Riot said it many times.
ChaosThief4 votesA Prisoner Island Queue won't happen, as it's just a half - assed way of trying to fix the problem.
The problem is people are too afraid to say anything positive, in a bad situation.
Jari2 votesThey stated they won't do prisoner island because it's bad for business because these toxic players are paying people too. Why do you think most of them get away with it? Just give riot some money and they'll sometimes let you go.
I'm stating this because a certain someone still isn't banned after feeding, and admitting they did it on purpose. Riot even said they'd, "Look into it," but she's still playing. I'd think if they admit to it there's already a problem.
Edit: Not going to delete the money part because it's already quoted and it'd make me look worse, but I guess I jumped the gun a bit much. I'll take my downvotes.
Solaxo4 votesThey stated they won't do prisoner island because it's bad for business because these toxic players are paying people too. Why do you think most of them get away with it? Just give riot some money and they'll sometimes let you go.
I'm stating this because a certain someone still isn't banned after feeding, and admitting they did it on purpose. Riot even said they'd, "Look into it," but she's still playing. I'd think if they admit to it there's already a problem.
and non-toxic players aren't paying?
Jari2 votesand non-toxic players aren't paying?
I never stated they weren't paying. Lots of people, toxic or not, do pay in this game for what it has. What I was saying was that it feels like if you put some money in, you are less likely to get the hammer unless you do some serious bad stuff (such as death threats.) I'd personally list who I was referring to before, but I can't state the name or it's name shaming.
Sorry if my post above was sounding like non-toxic players aren't paying. Wasn't trying to assume on that or anything like that. It just seems like that, specially if the person just put money into the machine, because if it's soon enough someone can force the money back legally. No seriously, you can if you word it right.
Monsta Moo1 votesand non-toxic players aren't paying?
He's not wrong, the reason he gave(aside from the whole money thing) are indeed Riots reasons for no "prisoner island".
Jari1 votesMaybe I'm poking too much into that and just don't understand. It just seems like the ones that obviously spent money when I report (and even send it to riot) get away with it generally. And if I'm wrong there, oh well, jumped the gun too much on it. I'll take my downvotes for that.
But I did at least state what riot did say, which is a good reason for it.
Transgressor1 votesI'm toxic, I've payed them ALOT of money, I'm not going away unscathed TRUST me. But flamers are different than trolls, and on that I agree, trolls are ravaging this game from the inside like an autoimmune disease, and there's NOTHING being done about it. In fact, It's becoming even worse since more and more flamers have their acounts permabanned and trolls get more of the spotlight.
Dare I say, trolls are causing ALOT of frustration and toxicity to begin with.
Jari1 votesBeing why I stated I may have jumped the gun too much. Let's pretend it was a joke and laugh it off. But ya, I have met people that ended up flaming from obvious provoking. And although thick skin is a thing, that only goes so far. The problem is, both paths end up in one simple end. If you do something to a person enough, they will eventually break. A troll I think is more likely to cause it though, and they always seem to get away with it based on the ticket's I have opened for these (which Riot is okay with. Confirmed.)
Transgressor1 votesI know buddy this is why I gave you my updoot(-4 to -3 doesn't really matter thought)to both your posts as I agree with you and respect all opinions stated openly.
I genuinely think that trolls are the cause of 85% of toxicity. And the root of the problem is not even tackled with, which is why I only have respect for Riot's art departement, nothing else.
Jari1 votesYou didn't have to do that. I deserve the downvotes considering what I said.
Transgressor1 votesNah, those who don't like your opinions can stick it up theirs, I've had enough with the Board's autism.
