Tired of getting blamed for literally everything in DynamicQ

Vicarious117··6 votes·826 views

Constantly in games where there's 3 if not 4 people Q'd together, and no matter what happens during the game I'm getting blamed for the loss almost 100% of the time in these games.....

Last game for example, was Galio vs Eve in mid lane. Obviously she had to roam to be effective since she couldn't really do anything to me, and I did in fact ping her missing non fucking stop.

She roamed to bot a couple times, and I pinged it numerous times, and I did indeed hard push the lane when she ran by my pink ward in the river (the only pink ward in the game for a very long time as well), but the enemy jungle Wukong was literally in my lane every single time Eve left to catch the waves and hard push it against me, until I poked him low enough to force him off, but bot was usually dead by then, whether Eve helped or not.

Cause the fact of the matter is that the enemy top Shen ganked bot lane more often then Eve did, she was 3/2/1 while I was 2/1/2 with nearly 50 more CS, and my bot lane was already 2/10 together by that point, so obviously Eve wasn't the only thing swaying that lane! She invaded a couple times on our jungler, and guess what, I KILLED HER BOTH TIMES!

However, the top laner, adc, and jungler were all Q'd together, so guess who they harassed? Me and our supp Raka.... literally the only two people worth anything on that team, we won two team fights mid game, and can you guess why? CAUSE ME AND RAKA!

But nope, my fault bot was lost cause Eve apparently ganked them too much and I didn't push hard enough, they were "watching and Wu was never in my lane"..... either lying out their asses or seriously just that fucking blind.

Never not once did they ever say anything even slightly constructive to anyone, much less address their own feeding, and spent almost the whole game harassing me and our supp.... Raka muted them like 10 mins into the game though, cause our jungle and adc were already harassing her, so they mainly focused on me for most the rest of the game cause I could see what they were saying, until I blocked them around 20-25 mins in. Ofc only to later see the enemy team joining in with harassing me and Raka, cause the three of them were obviously talking shit in all chat and neither of us could see it.

So yeah thnx Riot for making an even more toxic environment..... just trash this fucking 3-4 man Q option and bring back the fucking team Qs! Dynamic is NOT working out like you wanted it to and there is an overwhelming amount of people saying so, yet somehow you guys still claim it's fine.....

I seriously can't be bothered to play this fucking game for much longer if you guys don't start listening to your damn community and save us form these toxic as fuck children all Q'ing together so they can always in every single case gang up on someone else on the team just to avert blame!

25 Comments

Atrak72 votes

I constantly get 4 mans that feed while I do good and they wont even surrender 13 to 40 games lmfao.

Vicarious1173 votes

I personally always hit "no" on the surrender vote in ranked games unless we just lost a big teamfight and the enemy team can just walk up a lane and finish before we spawn, or something along those lines of the game already ending.

Mainly cause the enemy team is usually just as bad as my moronic teams and if they just listen to me for even a moment we could capitalize on the other team being stupid, as they almost always are. But ofc my teams actually listening to me is far and few in between, I can only hope....

Honestly though there have been a couple games where I suffer the opposite. One time I was 8/2/3 as Rengar jungle in a game that was only 23 - 13 for the enemy team, and due to my map movement I managed to keep my team tied in towers and only behind one dragon! Yet immediately as the timer hit 20 mins they all 4 just surrendered.... like how the FUCK am I supposed to carry myself to a higher rank if even when I hard carry these heavy ass teams they just ff as soon as they can!?

DynamicQ is just fucking awful.....

Atrak71 votes

i mean your also only plat so makes sense you would vote no every time for no logical reason

Vicarious1174 votes

Says the Silver....

I also did give a logical explanation, and was rather civilized with my response, so the insults are just unwarranted childishness.

I mean did you even read anything I said or saw I disagreed on the overall statement and just decided to lash out automatically?

KillerKell1 votes

I'm only Bronze, but over my time in League my teams have fought back from many 20 Kill Deficits. They have been some of the absolutely most rewarding experiences as well.

Now, on the flip side, we've certainly continued to get buried in a fair amount of those as well.

Some times it only takes ONE Team Fight to turn an entire game.

Lycanoon2 votes

And people wonder WHY i refuse to play ranked games.

Vicarious1171 votes

I would be right there in normals with you man, but I have unfortunately gotten to that point where if I'm not playing for something, or with some friends who I can't Q with in ranked, then I just don't enjoy normal games and feel like I'm wasting my time :(

Lycanoon1 votes

I just do ARAM and a few bot matchs When I feel like poking faces, I do some PVP

BluePolarizer1 votes

I'm plat and I ARAM or bot game more than ranked now.

Vicarious1171 votes

I was plat last season and that didn't change anything for me. Honestly the higher rank I got the easier it was to win, I just ran out of time at the end of last season, so I doubt ranking up further would change my mind :(

71883083DEL11 votes

I'm not saying you are always wrong but you could be doing little things that your team is getting mad at you for, just try to stay friendly about it and ask them what you are doing wrong/how to improve on it.

Vicarious1172 votes

Oh I'm 100% positive I made some mistakes as well, there is literally never a perfect game for anyone, not the worst bronzie and not the best challenger, the amount of mistakes is all that varies. So yeah I for sure didn't play perfectly.

My problem is that, using that same example again, when we're both lvl 5 (so Galio has pretty low ganking or even counter ganking potential) the Eve left lane, I triple pinged it as is my custom since these morons never seem to notice a single ping, I then see Eve pass by my own pink ward and ping warnings on her for my bot lane, followed by a hard push in mid only to be met by Wukong pretty much at the same time that my ADC dies to an Eve gank cause he didn't back off. IMMEDIATELY followed by him spam pinging missing pings on my lane in front of me and saying shit like "welp another useless mid laner!"

That kind of shit, just utter nonsense, toxic behavior for the sole sake of being toxic, and without repercussion cause the majority of my team is Q'd with the toxic fuck, and if me or the one other person EVER say anything in reply his buddies will just gang up on me or us. So I have to mute them all but then they just start talking shit about me to the other team and I end up getting 9 reports even though I didn't fucking do anything!

it's not about improving my play, cause I could have one of those impossible PERFECT games and in these situations I would still 100% get harassed and blamed for everything.

KillerKell1 votes

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Oh I'm 100% positive I made some mistakes as well, there is literally never a perfect game for anyone, not the worst bronzie and not the best challenger, the amount of mistakes is all that varies. So yeah I for sure didn't play perfectly.

My problem is that, using that same example again, when we're both lvl 5 (so Galio has pretty low ganking or even counter ganking potential) the Eve left lane, I triple pinged it as is my custom since these morons never seem to notice a single ping, I then see Eve pass by my own pink ward and ping warnings on her for my bot lane, followed by a hard push in mid only to be met by Wukong pretty much at the same time that my ADC dies to an Eve gank cause he didn't back off. IMMEDIATELY followed by him spam pinging missing pings on my lane in front of me and saying shit like "welp another useless mid laner!"

That kind of shit, just utter nonsense, toxic behavior for the sole sake of being toxic, and without repercussion cause the majority of my team is Q'd with the toxic fuck, and if me or the one other person EVER say anything in reply his buddies will just gang up on me or us. So I have to mute them all but then they just start talking shit about me to the other team and I end up getting 9 reports even though I didn't fucking do anything!

it's not about improving my play, cause I could have one of those impossible PERFECT games and in these situations I would still 100% get harassed and blamed for everything.

This is why I WANT Dynamic Queue.

So I can ensure I don't get stuck in those situations. I can arm myself with people I can trust (in the game) because I've played with them before and added them to play in future games over time.

It doesn't happen over night... it happens organically. But I love that a lot of times I can ensure I don't get a single Troll or Toxic on my team. Not all the time, but enough to make me think it's a great idea.

Vicarious1172 votes

Doesn't happen often enough to make it worth it.

KillerKell1 votes

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Doesn't happen often enough to make it worth it.

It does for me.

But feel free to not try it and just keep doing the same thing instead. You already expressed how that is working for you.

But then, I'm not often getting bad Pre-Made Groups when I'm the Solo. So apparently I have a better pool of Decent People to choose from. Lucky me.

Vicarious1172 votes

Lucky you indeed, and already explained myself in my other response to you, won't waste my time doing it again.

71883083DEL11 votes

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Oh I'm 100% positive I made some mistakes as well, there is literally never a perfect game for anyone, not the worst bronzie and not the best challenger, the amount of mistakes is all that varies. So yeah I for sure didn't play perfectly.

My problem is that, using that same example again, when we're both lvl 5 (so Galio has pretty low ganking or even counter ganking potential) the Eve left lane, I triple pinged it as is my custom since these morons never seem to notice a single ping, I then see Eve pass by my own pink ward and ping warnings on her for my bot lane, followed by a hard push in mid only to be met by Wukong pretty much at the same time that my ADC dies to an Eve gank cause he didn't back off. IMMEDIATELY followed by him spam pinging missing pings on my lane in front of me and saying shit like "welp another useless mid laner!"

That kind of shit, just utter nonsense, toxic behavior for the sole sake of being toxic, and without repercussion cause the majority of my team is Q'd with the toxic fuck, and if me or the one other person EVER say anything in reply his buddies will just gang up on me or us. So I have to mute them all but then they just start talking shit about me to the other team and I end up getting 9 reports even though I didn't fucking do anything!

it's not about improving my play, cause I could have one of those impossible PERFECT games and in these situations I would still 100% get harassed and blamed for everything.

I can agree with you, people don't always get matched with others who care as much about the game. I can relate dude, I get stuck with trolls almost every single game (maybe I just think they are so terrible that they r trolls? lol idk)..

It really sucks, like I am going to have to grind through this BS and buy every champion to be half decent. Good thing I can play like 6 games a day! :3

KillerKell1 votes

You know how you solve this?

Try Playing with people you trust know what they are doing.

I mean, for some reason, you CHOOSE to Play with people that can be Toxic, can be Trolls, or generally can just suck.

That's your CHOICE. You can 100% ensure you NEVER have to deal with that... but you don't want to do that.

It's like me saying "You can get on this bus, and you can personally ensure everyone on it is sane and reasonable. OR you could get on this bus... I can't tell you there won't be any Convicted Felons on it because there just might be."

And you say "Bus 2 sounds cool, let's try that one instead".

You literally do this to yourself.

Vicarious1172 votes

No, that's an incorrect analogy formed for the sole purpose of forcing your point across.

It's more like you can either choose to go on a bus with strangers, or don't go on the bus at all, cause you don't always have enough people to fill up the other bus if you've got anyone at all.

I play with my friends everytime they are on, but we've got lives, we can't all always be on, I'm the most guilty of this out of my group in fact!

So again no, your analogy is entirely incorrect.

I also did say I would choose to just not "ride the bus" if Riot didn't bother to listen to their community.

KillerKell1 votes

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No, that's an incorrect analogy formed for the sole purpose of forcing your point across.

It's more like you can either choose to go on a bus with strangers, or don't go on the bus at all, cause you don't always have enough people to fill up the other bus if you've got anyone at all.

I play with my friends everytime they are on, but we've got lives, we can't all always be on, I'm the most guilty of this out of my group in fact!

So again no, your analogy is entirely incorrect.

I also did say I would choose to just not "ride the bus" if Riot didn't bother to listen to their community.

You know how almost every single Pre Made Group I've taken part in has happened? Organically. Game by Game.

So if you play 1 Game, you have a chance to 'interview' 4 Prospect. If you like them, ask them if they want to continue working together.

Every game is another chance to take a slot away from a possible Troll or Prospect.

I never said they have to be personal friends in real life. If you play 10 Games a Day as a Solo, that's 40 Individuals just on YOUR TEAMS that you can look at and decide if they are worth adding to a List that will play when they might be on.

Over a Week, that would be 280 People (more than we can even put on our Friends List). There isn't a shortage of quality people to play with on League... you just, you know, have to ask.

Vicarious1172 votes

The problem isn't so much that there are feeders on your team, literally everyone on the planet has bad games, so even "stacking" your team with people who have performed well in the past you will often still end up with one or more of them feeding at some point or another, and then just pray they aren't toxic when feeding.

Hell some of my best friends are toxic as shit when they feed and I have to verbally try to calm them down without actually saying "calm down" cause anyone with a fucking brain knows that only ever makes it worse.

I also only meet around 8-16 different people per week, cause I only play 2-4 games in a week. A friend of mine sometimes borrows my account to play in NA, cause he now lives in Japan, but still has friends here as well, sadly he will often have a horrible connection and derank me if he doesn't stick to normals lol

So yeah when I'm constantly getting matched with 3 or 4 man Qs who are almost always toxic as shit I simply do not play enough games to "build a team" to play with, even if I did I don't, can't, and WILL NOT play at regular hours just to make sure I can play with them, I have a fucking life and can't devote any specific times to play this game.

KillerKell1 votes

I never play at 'regular hours'. In fact, the last 5 Months I've been a Truck Driver... regular hours don't exist.

I pull into a Pilot or Flying J, go inside, fire up the Lap Top and see who is on from my Friends List. Some times no one (My last 17 Ranked Games are as a Solo). But even then I don't really get these 'Toxic Pre Made Groups' often at all. It seems, in my experience, to be a very small minority. So it's rather unfortunate that it seems to be a majority for you.

Just continue to grow that Friends List, then use it when ever you can. Won't always work, but every game it does is one less game you have to deal with the issue you are describing.

See, you don't have to use Dynamic Queue to get Carried... you can simply use it to insulate yourself from Trolls and AFK/DC types, so that your actual ability can show through and not be wasted.

Look, I used to do Ranked Teams... I understand the impossibility that is getting a group together at set times. Not suggesting that at all.

If some one played well enough, had a decent attitude and stayed positive... shoot them an invite. Chat a little about the game. See if it's some one you'd be willing to play with again, and then go for it.

They don't have to be your best friend, and you don't have to know them in real life. It's an On Line Game, you're just looking for people that share a similar view with how it should be played so you can all eliminate Bad Attitudes, Trolls and Toxics.

Vicarious1171 votes

I shoot every friendly person who performed well a request, like literally every single time, but again I simply do not get on enough to meet enough people and half the damn time I'm q'd with 4 fucking people Q'd together who are all toxic as fuck only towards me cause I'm their scapegoat so they can feel less bad about their own ineptitude at this fucking game.

That's simply not a solution, yes it will help, mainly if you do play enough to meet enough people in the myriad of toxic shits, but it won't fix the problem. My point is that there is indeed a fix, not just another bandaid to try and stave off the toxicity seeping through this crap called dynamicQ, but an actual fucking fix, and it's to limit it to duoQs at most again so that they can't just automatically team up on people with a majority.

You should still try and make as many connections with good people as you can, that's not something that is used to "fix" dynamicQs but just in general in online games something you should always do, but if they actually FIXED dynamicQ you wouldn't need to rely on this just to try and avoid being automatically harassed for simply not being Q'd with people.

KillerKell1 votes

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I shoot every friendly person who performed well a request, like literally every single time, but again I simply do not get on enough to meet enough people and half the damn time I'm q'd with 4 fucking people Q'd together who are all toxic as fuck only towards me cause I'm their scapegoat so they can feel less bad about their own ineptitude at this fucking game.

That's simply not a solution, yes it will help, mainly if you do play enough to meet enough people in the myriad of toxic shits, but it won't fix the problem. My point is that there is indeed a fix, not just another bandaid to try and stave off the toxicity seeping through this crap called dynamicQ, but an actual fucking fix, and it's to limit it to duoQs at most again so that they can't just automatically team up on people with a majority.

You should still try and make as many connections with good people as you can, that's not something that is used to "fix" dynamicQs but just in general in online games something you should always do, but if they actually FIXED dynamicQ you wouldn't need to rely on this just to try and avoid being automatically harassed for simply not being Q'd with people.

And how do they fix it? Without Pre Made Groups you could still (because I often did) get 4 guys that tilt or troll.

Dynamic Queue at least gives us the opportunity to avoid that situation entirely in a Game, even if it isn't 100% 'every game'.

I like the opportunity that about 20% of my Games can be played with full knowledge that the Players I am with will maintain good attitudes, not be Toxic, will play together and be respectful of others. At that point, I don't even really care how good they are, because I'd rather have them than some Toxic with Skill who goes Tilt because Jungle stole 'his Blue' and proceeds to flame relentlessly while degrading his own play by losing focus.

I'll take a loss... that's fine, they happen. I'll take Lesser Skilled Individuals, if it means I don't have to deal with crap like that. I'd much rather 'figure it out' with lesser skilled Players that are decent Human Beings than be constantly subjected to people who are not decent.

The major point is, not ever 2-3-4 Man Pre Made Group is Toxic... I've only seen a few myself. Not ever 2-3-4 Man Pre Made Group excludes those not in their Group either.

I hear this all the time. When talking about Enemy Pre Mades... they were always Immortals coming to Bronze to Scrim. When ever talking about Ally Pre Mades... they were always mouth breathing Trolls.

Hyperbole to an extreme, no one ever talks about the awesome Pre-Made Group they were paired with that was fun and engaging and included them... but they exist. I know, I've played with them myself. And likely you've played with a few as well.

But we dwell on the negative, good news doesn't sell.

Vicarious1171 votes

Every single premade 3-4 group I've gotten has been toxic as fuck. Even when winning, unless your team doesn't make a single mistake (which never happens), they will blame me or the other non grouped player for literally anything that happens and it takes some fucking work to calm their shit down so they don't throw the game through their tilt alone.

So no, I have no played with a few as well, not unless they're of my own making, which again isn't all that easy to make most of the time.

There is no hyperbole here for most of us, because it isn't just that the negative leaves a longer lasting effect, it's that there is just so little positive for the majority of people to focus on.

So good to hear you've been lucky, but most of us have not.

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