Because the moment ADC becomes prominent, assassins will return. Trust me, it doesn't matter how much damage you have if you get 100-0 without counterplay and you know those new shiny AD items? They work amazingly well on AD assassins too.
Also, mages isn't the weakest role this season, junglers are, exp reduced all through jungle coupled with the "I must get first blue from mid because I can't manage my mana" threat.
dunder kill4 votesyou know those new shiny AD items? They work amazingly well on AD assassins too.
Actually, they are pretty bad on assasins. A lot of core items took AD nerfs and higher price tags in exchange for other stats or features. Most flat armor pen items that are traditionally strong on assassins took a hit and lost some flat AD. The changes to LW means that the armor pen from it only applies to bonus armor and will be literally worthless against the squishy targets that assasins want to target.
I have no clue where you came up with this theory of new awesome itemization for assassins because its overall nerfs all around for the stats they care about
z63XnLCMwX1 votesActually, they are pretty bad on assasins. A lot of core items took AD nerfs and higher price tags in exchange for other stats or features. Most flat armor pen items that are traditionally strong on assassins took a hit and lost some flat AD. The changes to LW means that the armor pen from it only applies to bonus armor and will be literally worthless against the squishy targets that assasins want to target.
I have no clue where you came up with this theory of new awesome itemization for assassins because its overall nerfs all around for the stats they care about
New PD works amazing on Shaco. Mortal Reminder reduces any Adc's ability to sustain Death's Dance works on Zed and Talon Yonomuu grants 65AD instead of 30
Seems like a good buffs for assassins imo.
dunder kill2 votesNew PD works amazing on Shaco.
New PD works way better on ADCs
Mortal Reminder reduces any Adc's ability to sustain
and vice versa. Also, not many people are going to build it because its counterpart, Lord Dominik's Regards, is just flat out better than Mortal Reminder. Lets not forget that the armor pen now only applies to bonus armor and is extremely cost inefficient vs squishys. You are essentially paying 2500g for 40 AD which is flat out terrible. I have no idea why you would attempt to use the new LW upgrades as a buff to assassins. These two items are absolute garbage vs squishy targets
Death's Dance works on Zed and Talon
Again, you are paying 3400g for an item with 65 AD. It is a very expensive item that doesn't give you a lot of assassination potential. It doesnt help you stick like a BotRK does either. BT is still better than Death's dance on assasins
Yonomuu grants 65AD instead of 30
and also costs 600g more now and its components are worse
Eedat1 votesNew LW and upgrades are junk against squishy targets.
NemeBro3 votesEvery season is ADC meta, lol.
YCitizenSnipsY3 votesBecause as is always the case the boards are over reacting to changes that have barely been announced, remember when the juggernaut changes were supposed to ruin those champions and they all came out perma-ban. Basically what ever the popular opinion on the boards is about balance changes, assume the opposite because they are almost always wrong.
Dreadlocks3 votesI agree with this for the most part.. but at the same time, i remember how awful the jungle was at the start of season 5.. yuck.
YCitizenSnipsY1 votesBut it didn't stay that way right. There is always gonna be a rough patch or a change that didn't come out as helpful as it could have. But coming to the boards and shouting the sky is falling is never what gets these problems fixed, especially when most of the time the complaints are wrong.
DrNova1 votesYeah but that's what the boards are for. This has never been a place for deep conversation, just to speculate and wait for your next match.
Dreadlocks1 votesYou are absolutely right, it did get fixed.. but to be fair it took half the season to do it..
BluePolarizer2 votesToo bad all the new AD items are too expensive for assassins with shit build paths that only ADCs can afford and also grant tankiness to ADCs which matters greatly but doesn't do anything for assassins since they get blown up instantly in teamfights anyhow.
Also, AP assassins don't do shit anymore thanks to the increased costs of items making them snowball way less. I don't think you realize the scale of the nerfs until you think about it this way: a typical AP assassin now needs 3 more kills early game to get a 2 item core. 3 more kills is the difference between being fed or feeding.
z63XnLCMwX1 votesToo bad all the new AD items are too expensive for assassins with shit build paths that only ADCs can afford and also grant tankiness to ADCs which matters greatly but doesn't do anything for assassins since they get blown up instantly in teamfights anyhow.
Also, AP assassins don't do shit anymore thanks to the increased costs of items making them snowball way less. I don't think you realize the scale of the nerfs until you think about it this way: a typical AP assassin now needs 3 more kills early game to get a 2 item core. 3 more kills is the difference between being fed or feeding.
I wasn't talking about AP assassins, only AP. I love your logic by the way "all the new AD items are too expensive for assassins with shit build paths that only ADCs can afford" because assassins don't CS either, lol.
Eedat1 votesThe new items are pretty terrible for assasins. Its going to be League of ADCs and Bruisers
BluePolarizer1 votesno because assassins have to balance trading, csing and roaming; they also have to give up mid farm to ADCs frequently when they are pushing, since the ADC will have shiv and more safety to last hit the minions. Also, if they are top or jungle, they are more gold starved than mid, but mid is almost always better served by putting a late game carry there rather than an assassin. There's a reason in pro games and high elo games ADC is considered THE carry lane where everyone funnels gold to them, mid is behind, top/jungle are starved and support end up with boots and sightstone. ADC just carry harder. Now down in your elo, it might be different.
z63XnLCMwX1 votesArchived. I'll be back when ADCs starts crying about no counter from rengar 0.3 second combo from leap in season 6.
Eedat3 votesWhy do you have to wait that long? People are already playing on these changes on the PBE and the general consensus is that assassins are weak, ADCs and Bruisers are gods. How does waiting for other buffs and nerfs to affect your argument being wrong change anything?
Your thread got downvoted because you are flat out wrong and you are doing nothing but crying about assassins for absolutely no reason
z63XnLCMwX1 votesWhy do you have to wait that long? People are already playing on these changes on the PBE and the general consensus is that assassins are weak, ADCs and Bruisers are gods. How does waiting for other buffs and nerfs to affect your argument being wrong change anything?
Your thread got downvoted because you are flat out wrong and you are doing nothing but crying about assassins for absolutely no reason
PBE's been out for what, two days? I'm an assassin main and I don't think ADC are too powerful this pre-season, I don't know what the hell you're talking about.
Edit: Proof http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/GD/pxadkYyF-chickenwrap-notice-me-sunsaengnim
Eedat3 votesHow would you know? I actually have a PBE account and watch streams of challenger players that play on the PBE. Imaqtpie's stream was just him saying "ADCs are completely broken" all day. You know who didnt do well? All the assassins that he dumped on non stop. Your "proof" is literally completely 100% irrelevent to anything we are talking about. Did you link the wrong thread or something?
Trídent1 votesBecause ADCs have two new items that will defend them against burst New mastery that forces Assassins to deal part of burst to tanks instead of ADC, if I read correctly
xJLx MCHammer1 votesTahm will always stop assassins like zed. Braum will always stop divers, adc got all the pee they need. Exhaust too, and I'm expecting ad version of zhonya soon
Boulderox1 votesif adc meta comes true, assassin meta returns, so tank meta ensues to counter assassins, so tank meta returns.... and then tanks are nerfed so carry meta returns...
THE CIRCLE OF LIFE.
